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Date:      Tue, 30 Apr 2019 14:46:09 -0400
From:      <kris@ixsystems.com>
To:        "'Garrett Wollman'" <wollman@csail.mit.edu>, "'Cy Schubert'" <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base
Message-ID:  <081a01d4ff84$fa4f3d50$eeedb7f0$@ixsystems.com>
In-Reply-To: <23752.34284.56207.860696@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org <owner-freebsd-
> pkgbase@freebsd.org> On Behalf Of Garrett Wollman
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 1:29 PM
> To: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
> Cc: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base
>=20
> > Which begs the question, if we're simply replacing freebsd-update =
and
> > it does most of what we want why the extra effort?
>=20
> Anyone who isn't using a completely stock make.conf/src.conf is =
already
> replacing freebsd-update, and it would be much *less* effort to have =
only
> one mechanism to distribute software rather than two.
>=20
> I'd like to have a better installation process, too, because that =
would make it
> much easier to redeploy servers.  But most of our servers are file =
servers
> with unique user data so "redeploy" is not a relevant operation much =
of the
> time.
>=20
> -GAWollman
>=20
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This was a big motivator for us to merge base pkgs into poudriere. In my =
career I've written 4 build systems that all do some variation of =
buildworld/kernel + poudriere + create ISO + create updates. I'm sure =
plenty of other FreeBSD consumers have done the same, and frankly its =
getting old. At least now I'm down to poudriere + create ISO only.=20

And my sympathies to anybody still having to use freebsd-update as part =
of their custom updating process =F0=9F=98=89


--=20
Kris Moore
Vice President of Engineering
iXsystems, Inc
Ph: (408) 943-4100
Ph: (408) 943-4101
The Groundbreaking TrueNAS M-Series -
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