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Date:      Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:20:16 -0400 (EDT)
From:      "Viren R. Shah" <viren@rstcorp.com>
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com>, darrylo@sr.hp.com, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Adding desktop support (please don't)
Message-ID:  <199904291220.IAA15363@jabberwock.rstcorp.com>
In-Reply-To: <3727C7DA.F08AD1B4@softweyr.com>
References:  <199904290035.UAA18606@lakes.dignus.com> <3727C7DA.F08AD1B4@softweyr.com>

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>>>>> "Wes" == Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> writes:

 Wes> This entire discussion seems to have skipped over an important concept:
 Wes> is the icon an attribute of the executable, or an attribute of the
 Wes> file manager?  This is a point that is often missed, especially by the
 Wes> microserfs in Redmond.  I think the icons are more an attribute of the 
 Wes> file manager, they are a virtual view of the file rather than an
 Wes> attribute of the file.  The response that mentioned heir(7) was precisely
 Wes> right; UNIX already has a way of handling this situation and we should
 Wes> use and extend THAT appropriately.

I think you missed the original point. You are talking about icons as
seen representing an application in a desktop. What the original
proposal seemed to be was to include data associated with that
application (in this case the only data suggested was an icon). Look
at the demo application (filedemo) that was presented. It *uses* the
icons to display a file hierarchy. The icons embedded within it are
not used when the application is minimised -- that's a function of my
window manager.

I would like to hear arguments against "data" being embedded --
not window manager icons, which has been a perpetual strawman since
this thread began.


Viren
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Viren R. Shah, viren @ rstcorp . com, http://www.rstcorp.com/~vshah/
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