Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:32:15 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com> To: Michal Varga <varga.michal@gmail.com>, Matthew Fleming <mdf356@gmail.com> Cc: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com>, Jason Hsu <jhsu802701@jasonhsu.com>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best way to switch from Linux to BSD Message-ID: <55976D748BCC94E34839C2A6@utd71538.local> In-Reply-To: <1301422804.71335.143.camel@xenon> References: <20110329013223.ddca7453.jhsu802701@jasonhsu.com> <BBACD46824C753B5B2F3BD83@utd71538.local> <1301419646.71335.123.camel@xenon> <AANLkTimrkgLEMtZryebyEjVeXM-Pvs=_%2BG6qO%2BRJjQLS@mail.gmail.com> <1301422804.71335.143.camel@xenon>
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--On March 29, 2011 8:20:04 PM +0200 Michal Varga <varga.michal@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 10:51 -0700, Matthew Fleming wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Michal Varga <varga.michal@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Here too. How is "desktop support" on FreeBSD lacking? >> >> I realize a desktop means many things to many people, but the biggest >> thing holding me back from using FreeBSD on a desktop is flash >> support. I spent a little time trying to follow online instructions >> and I didn't get anything working. > > Lack of Flash support - a proprietary closed exploit-ridden hellhole - > sorry, I mean - "application" - that's in no way tied to FreeBSD and > controlled by a legendarily uncompetent company that blantantly refuses > to release a FreeBSD version of this very fine and awesome rootkit (a > good decision that one can only support, so really, what's the issue) is > hardly something that could even remotely be FreeBSD's fault. I mean, > this is what we're talking about: > Michal, calm down. No one is blaming FreeBSD for any of this. But seriously, man, install FreeBSD - no ports - then run a desktop system for me. You can't. That's how silly your argument is. You can't do it, because FreeBSD does not have a system-installed desktop. Even Xorg is a port. No way is the crap that other people (like Adobe) put out the fault of FreeBSD, but by the same token, you can hardly claim FreeBSD is good desktop system when it doesn't even have a display system without the use of ports. Flash may be riddled with holes (it clearly is) but those are Windows holes. If I'm running flash on FreeBSD (if I can even get it working), I could care less about Windows exploits. It may come as a shock to you (it certainly seems to) but there are actually legitimate reasons for needing a functional flash installation. Nothing can be all things to all people. FreeBSD is a fantastic server OS. As a desktop OS, not so much. Since this is rapidly descending into bizarro world, I'll let you have the last word. You clearly are eager to defend FreeBSD to the hilt, no matter how ridiculous your argument becomes. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell
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