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Date:      Sat, 01 Jan 2000 23:00:22 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>, Tom <tom@uniserve.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: softupdates and debug.max_softdeps 
Message-ID:  <200001020700.XAA09576@mass.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 01 Jan 2000 15:18:26 %2B1030." <20000101151826.L1528@freebie.lemis.com> 

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> On Thursday, 30 December 1999 at 22:34:04 -0800, Mike Smith wrote:
> >>   That is interesting.  So I guess the conclusion to this is, softupdates
> >> is useful for bursty IO, but not sustained because it can get far behind
> >> until it eventually reaches the point where the machine reboots silently.
> >> I guess the delay until reboot is dependent on the size of max_softdeps.
> >> If it is big, it takes a while.
> >
> > I mentioned this a while back in the context of suspended I/O (in this
> > case, a RAID array busy dealing with a failed disk).  There wasn't much
> > interest in dealing with it evinced at that point.
> 
> On a related topic, I've taken to limiting the number of outstanding
> transactions in Vinum, mainly to try to hunt down some strange
> consistency problems when a very large number of transactions were
> outstanding (for those of you who have been following this, this was
> the "NULL b_biodone" syndrome).  I still think there is a problem
> hidden in the system which causes this.  

I've stopped seeing these in the Mylex driver after I stopped assuming 
that splbio() woult block re-entry into the strategy handler.

In fact, if we had a lock-and-mask-interrupt primitive I wouldn't be 
using spl-anything, and I think that's the way we want to go.

-- 
\\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\  Mike Smith
\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself,  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
\\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime.             \\  msmith@cdrom.com




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