Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 04:00:04 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Sander <jim@federation.addy.com> Cc: "'hackers@freebsd.org'" <hackers@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Mac iBook OS10 + BSD Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10212230323170.36818-100000@federation.addy.com> In-Reply-To: <3E06AC02.3BD0C826@ovis.net>
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First, this isn't quite appropriate for "hackers" - but I'll reply here since everyone else did. Nothing like the herd mentality. Think different? > > but OS 10 seems to lack some important features I want/need > > like virtual terminals If you demand "real" virutal terminals, you may be SOL- Darwin might offer that via xdm or whatever, but I can't say authoritatively. If you can get by with multiple-desktops, there are third party utilities to help you out. "versiontracker.com" is a good place to start. > > How much can BSD share things like utilities and config files with OS10? For the most part, this works as you'd expect. The exceptions I can think of right away are the /etc/master.passwd and /etc/mail setups. Both by default rely on the proprietary NetInfo database to work. The rc.files are also slightly different, but easily understandable to a FreeBSD user. > My question is how much of the BSD operating system can one get access > to on a MAC running OS X? Some things, like sysctl, will look familiar. Other things won't. Specifically, anything that interfaces with the kernal can be drastically different because of the MACH base. KLDs are (duh) not compatible, but might be adaptable- I'm not enough of a hacker to say for sure. > started up cron jobs and the like to do housekeeping I run half a dozen every day as different users. Never a hiccup. Works the same as cron does on every system I've ever used. All the userland programs I'm used to were available for X natively, or using the "fink" package manage, or easily compiled with few or no problems direct from source. Notable lacks/differences... 1. 'iostat' doesn't work the same, but it's close enough to be useable 2. no easy serial-type communcations, for modem, etc. (I'd love to learn how to bang on the internal modem- right now I'm experimenting with AppleScript to do dial-out stuff, but it's not very useful) 3. X-Darwin (the equivalent of X-Free86) doesn't use accellerated graphics, so large/complex windows can be slow. Honestly, IMO if you're going to buy a mac (or already have) installing another OS is really a waste of time. You won't likely gain anything, and will likely lose a lot of the things that make the mac system good. -=Jim=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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