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Date:      Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:57:40 -0600
From:      Benjamin Gavin <gavinb@supranet.net>
To:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Gregory Bond <gnb@itga.com.au>
Subject:   Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities 
Message-ID:  <4.1.19990203094304.00b61760@mail.supranet.net>
In-Reply-To: <199902022209.JAA12139@lightning.itga.com.au>
References:  <Your message of Tue, 02 Feb 1999 08:26:36 -0800.>

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Hi,
  Just to clear everything up...

1)  I am not having a problem with conflicting IPs, I am fully aware that
sharing IPs doesn't work.

2)  I am also using internal, non-routable IPs running through a firewall
(IPFW 3.0-STABLE) running NAT.  The Internal network is running 10MBit
switched using an HP 24-port switch (that may be where the floating MAC
Addresses are coming from...)

3)  It is an ISA _3C509_ that is giving me trouble, not the 905.

  I am still having some very interesting problems.  I will state them
here, then probably throw another ethernet card in the machine to see if
they are limited to just that card/OS combination, or to the OS itself.
Here are the problems I am having...

1)  I am able to flood ping out from the machine to the firewall.
2)  I am able to flood ping from the firewall to the machine.
3)  I am unable to FTP to anywhere from the machine and maintain a decent
datastream, this includes passive and active mode transfers.  The
connection starts, then stalls itself, never to be retrieved again.  Even
'ifconfig ep0 up' doesn't do the trick.
4)  I am able to FTP from the machine (file /kernel.GENERIC)
5)  I am able to telnet to/from the machine just fine

  I don't have the time to test every network service, but I think this is
some highly non-standard behavior that we are seeing here.  The interesting
thing is this...  The firewall is also using two 3C509s and it is running
an earlier version of 3.0-STABLE, possibly about 2-3 weeks old, maybe as
much as a month.  What has changed since then???  Anyone?

Ben Gavin

At 09:09 AM 2/3/99 +1100, you wrote:
>> I had a 3C509B in a 2.2.8 machine for a while with no problems... I haven't
>> had it in a 3.0 machine yet - I'm using a DEC Tulip card in it right now.
>> Maybe 3.0 broke something?
>> 
>
>Nope.  I have been using a 905B since 3.0-R and now 3.0-Stable with no 
>problems at all:
>
>>xl0: <3Com 3c905B Fast Etherlink XL 10/100BaseTX> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on 
>pci0.17.0
>>xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:a9:84:33
>>xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (full-duplex, 100Mbps)
>
>The messages the original poster was getting about ether addresses moving
>probably means that several machines are attempting to use the same IP address
>and they are fighting over it.  This explains why it works periodically - when
>this machine has 'control' it receives packets, but as soon as one of the
other
>machines attempts to use the net, it 'steals' the ARP entries and this machine
>stops.  It would also explain the failing ftps: when another machine
steals the
>IP address, the in-progress TCP session will get a RST because the new machine
>has no knowledge of the open session, causing the FTP server to drop the
>connection even when this machine steals back the IP address.
>
>Sharing IPs is A Bad Thing.  
>
>
>
>
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