Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:55:57 -0400 From: "Person, Roderick" <personrp@ccbh.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Opera (was: Linux emulation problem) Message-ID: <46AEB8C1B628D511969200508B6FE42A6683EC@1upmc-msx6.isdip.upmc.edu>
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This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F7F6.047BEDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Opera is great. I been using it for months now. And the only things that annoy me are the Bookmarks which do strange things on me (like repeating 10 times in the list). And the lack of plugins. I don't go to many sites which need plugin support so I can live with that for now. As Philip, suggested the pages that won't work with Opera are catering to IE or NS. I use Opera for Windows at work and the site it can display are IE and NS specific. I know this because one of are web sites is but on asp and doesn't run in Opera for windows either. So site that detect the browsers can be tricked with Opera's nifty little Identify as... setting. Are our Exchange Mail web page I have to set the ID as to IE 5.0 or NS 4.75 to be allowed acces to it. Once I do that it works fine! All and All it's a great alternative to NS and according to the Opera mailing list the are working on the plugins piece. Roderick P. Person Programmer II (412)454-2616 personrp@ccbh.com http://www.ccbh.com "Fascism is coming back, baby!" - Kevin Bacon - JFK > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip J. Koenig [mailto:pjklist@ekahuna.com] > Sent: June 18, 2001 6:31 AM > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Opera (was: Linux emulation problem) > > > > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:02:12 -0700 > > From: Kelsey Cummings <kgc@sonic.net> > > > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 10:37:17PM -0000, dev-null@no-id.com > > wrote: > > > Ok, this isn't a question per se. I did as the two kind > > > replies suggested and installed the linux libs from ports. Now > > > opera is working. But it's not just working. It's working > GREAT! ;-) > > > Unlike that memory scrooge bug farm Nutscrape, Opera isn't > > > crashing/freezing itself, nor is it bringing X down. I'm so > > > impressed with it that I thought it was my responsibility to > > > lighten the path for other readers of this list who may be > > > experiencing Netscape troubles of their own.... > > > > I love it too, but opera does have some quirks that I > hven't figured out > > yet. It doesn't work right with some web apps that we use > internally > > that have always worked with NS and IE. Of course, it *IS* > adware until > > registered. > > > It's a lot better than it used to be. I use it as my main browser > now. It is my unscientific opinion that the vast majority of pages > or apps that won't work with Opera nowadays are ones which pander to > generally non-standard idiosyncracies of IE and Netscape, rather than > flaws with Opera. Well worth the $39, they deserve support for > giving us a nice alternative. (At least they are out front with > their revenue source. I don't consider IE or NS free, you are just > paying for them by legitimizing other aspects of TimeWarner/AOL or > Microsoft's efforts at dominating the net) > > My least favorite aspect at the moment is the bookmark feature, > so for now I use Netscape for bookmarks and open the Netscape html > bookmark file in Opera when I want to access it. (Bless Netscape for > at least making that an html file) > > > Phil > > > > -- > Philip J. Koenig > pjklist@ekahuna.com > Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the > New Millenium > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F7F6.047BEDA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2653.12"> <TITLE>RE: Opera (was: Linux emulation problem)</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Opera is great. I been using it for months now. And = the only things that annoy me are the Bookmarks which do strange things = on me (like repeating 10 times in the list). And the lack of plugins. I = don't go to many sites which need plugin support so I can live with = that for now.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>As Philip, suggested the pages that won't work with = Opera are catering to IE or NS. I use Opera for Windows at work and the = site it can display are IE and NS specific. I know this because one of = are web sites is but on asp and doesn't run in Opera for windows = either. So site that detect the browsers can be tricked with Opera's = nifty little Identify as... setting. Are our Exchange Mail web page I = have to set the ID as to IE 5.0 or NS 4.75 to be allowed acces to it. = Once I do that it works fine!</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>All and All it's a great alternative to NS and = according to the Opera mailing list the are working on the plugins = piece.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Roderick P. Person</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Programmer II</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(412)454-2616</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>personrp@ccbh.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A HREF=3D"http://www.ccbh.com" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.ccbh.com</A></FONT>; </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>"Fascism is coming back, baby!"</FONT> <BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2>- Kevin = Bacon - JFK</FONT> </P> <BR> <BR> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> From: Philip J. Koenig [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:pjklist@ekahuna.com">mailto:pjklist@ekahuna.com</A>]</FON= T> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Sent: June 18, 2001 6:31 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Subject: Re: Opera (was: Linux emulation = problem)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:02:12 = -0700</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > From: Kelsey Cummings = <kgc@sonic.net></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 10:37:17PM -0000, = dev-null@no-id.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > wrote: </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > Ok, this isn't a question per se. I = did as the two kind</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > replies suggested and installed the = linux libs from ports. Now</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > opera is working. But it's not just = working. It's working </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> GREAT! ;-)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > Unlike that memory scrooge bug farm = Nutscrape, Opera isn't</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > crashing/freezing itself, nor is it = bringing X down. I'm so </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > impressed with it that I thought it = was my responsibility to </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > lighten the path for other readers of = this list who may be </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > experiencing Netscape troubles of = their own....</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > I love it too, but opera does have some = quirks that I </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> hven't figured out</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > yet. It doesn't work right with some = web apps that we use </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> internally</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > that have always worked with NS and = IE. Of course, it *IS* </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> adware until</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > registered.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> It's a lot better than it used to be. I = use it as my main browser </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> now. It is my unscientific opinion that = the vast majority of pages </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> or apps that won't work with Opera nowadays are = ones which pander to </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> generally non-standard idiosyncracies of IE and = Netscape, rather than </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> flaws with Opera. Well worth the $39, = they deserve support for </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> giving us a nice alternative. (At least = they are out front with </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> their revenue source. I don't consider IE = or NS free, you are just </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> paying for them by legitimizing other aspects = of TimeWarner/AOL or </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Microsoft's efforts at dominating the = net)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> My least favorite aspect at the moment is the = bookmark feature, </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> so for now I use Netscape for bookmarks and = open the Netscape html </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> bookmark file in Opera when I want to access = it. (Bless Netscape for </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> at least making that an html file)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Phil</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Philip J. = Koenig = = = </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> pjklist@ekahuna.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & = Communications for the </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> New Millenium</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to = majordomo@FreeBSD.org</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" = in the body of the message</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> </P> </BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F7F6.047BEDA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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