Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:05:54 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com> To: "Tony Johnson" <gjohnson@gs.verio.net> Cc: "Greg Lehey" <grog@lemis.com>, "Thomas David Rivers" <rivers@dignus.com>, bright@wintelcom.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, kris@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: interesting problem Message-ID: <92431.970200354@winston.osd.bsdi.com> In-Reply-To: Message from "Tony Johnson" <gjohnson@gs.verio.net> of "Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:45:13 CDT." <FOENIGAJAKGPLNGHHADICENKDAAA.gjohnson@gs.verio.net>
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> I will not provide comments as the below messages are already too messy. > Remove my teflon cables... Hmmm... I'll try it but something tells me that > this is like trying to shoot an arbitrary star in the midnight sky. FreeBSD > doesn't like teflon or is it just my system??? I think there have been a few people in this thread who've replied with a significant lack of tact and for that probably need to be taken to task - I don't think that many aspects of this thread have reflected well on the participants in that regard. That said, I'll take the liberty of translating what I believe they're *trying* to say in a way which I'm hoping will be a more tactful. The practice of running -current, something which any commercial Unix development shop would not even give its "customers" the benefit of, is one definitely not recommended for everyone. It's basically for developers and people who can, at the very minimum, provide crash dumps and actively help to debug problems. Please note that I do not say "help report problems" since that's not actually what's being solicited by making -current widely available - that would entail a staff of people who did little more than interpret problem reports and we're not big enough to sustain that kind of effort yet. What we're looking for with -current are essentially "co-developers", everyone else being actively (and, in some cases, forcefully) directed to -stable. In short, I honestly believe you're simply on the wrong branch and will do both yourself and the developers a world of good by jumping out of the shark tank and into more hospitable waters. Should your problems persist in -stable, that will be an entirely different matter and I'll be among the first to jump in and try and help you debug the problem. With -current, all bets are literally off. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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