Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 09:29:36 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Don Lewis <truckman@FreeBSD.org> Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org, gshapiro@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: Sendmail deprecation ? Message-ID: <20171207082936.gh26ankyfbckzmkd@ivaldir.net> In-Reply-To: <tkrat.f954a4373601db49@FreeBSD.org> References: <20171206223341.iz3vj4zz2igqczy7@ivaldir.net> <tkrat.f954a4373601db49@FreeBSD.org>
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--ptwwuo37ejqmwpwd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 08:16:04PM -0800, Don Lewis wrote: > On 6 Dec, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > Hi all, > >=20 > > I would like to propose the deprecation then removal of sendmail in bas= e. > >=20 > > Deprecation will happen in the form of FreeBSD 12.0 being built WITHOUT= _SENDMAIL > > by default > >=20 > > removal would happen in FreeBSD 13.0 > >=20 > > sendmail in base it not really usable as a full featured mta due to the= fact it > > does not support anything an entreprised grade mta setup would require:= ldap > > support for example, check the number of options available in the sendm= ail port. > >=20 > > Users for that use case would be better served by the port version of s= endmail. > >=20 > > The other kind of users are the one using the default setup of sendmail: > > relaying emails externally and deliver locally. >=20 > I've found that sendmail in base meets my needs. I haven't had the need > for any of the features that are only available in the port. >=20 > It doesn't looks like dma(8) would be useful for me on my primary > machines since I basically need its inverse. It would only be useful > on my headless machines to forward cron-generated mail to my mail > server. I don't do any local delivery of mail to mbox files. My mail > server delivers all mail to cyrus-imapd via lmtp, which is a fairly > simple tweak to the sendmail.mc file. I also have a couple of mail > relays that do some smart routing and spam filtering. >=20 > One thing that is comes with sendmail in base but is missing from the > sendmail port is all the handy stuff in /etc/mail, such as the > freebsd.mc template, the aliases file, and the Makefile which makes > maintaining the config files and the .db files much easier. Without > this stuff, setting up the sendmail port would be much more > intimidating. >=20 Yup, It would be a good idea to merge them in the port probably, somone nee= ds to talk to the port maintainer. Best regards, Bapt --ptwwuo37ejqmwpwd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEgOTj3suS2urGXVU3Y4mL3PG3PloFAloo+/AACgkQY4mL3PG3 PlpclRAApqZa90/m0kQpiUth/qK8Hrm8qHtOpjxkIADjQE7QTV0GAADVinLgtMBw AA5alEs2YbZQW0W+UIYeuFu4eoaVHa4qCKbvzr3sf8gQ9acsrxA10LR92cXzLt57 W5BCptHlkqZGMnbKz5TKCWhytkpcw8WdhzB9s/OTEM57fCsI+lKsCW9P2CFinh2b Kc2QTNtFU71So2yI0bGY3tC2QRgIU5KeJeKtSem6ivj01i6iyYSrZ7xVUHzyELB5 EZx6V9IO1KOZYJBvMwaNVPc9wUspOu9adJpakM2cRqdaYhFOrXyPk3hmDvFCi2Ua Hj25jdh4lWreLLgSG/aVKk0B7GCDiIhvF834IyEYRvgtZsvvyy25fs6//RWeAH6/ ZCSRri5SQ522DUpdxnwWTJkPRbuga4PRydm+WLV6sXuw6H4WDmGmyzPzsW+q2Ko0 vJiYoH4vWe7w2Ks58+jT7fqYXYw23FlLHZyryimPTQ7vtkPJeR72Lks21KojiTOl jvLm5y8uRXcWxPHTi0ZyeuyqoYg7f1wQfkijXEAN5x6HyXoiSL5Bj2RvlEzncVZL HRDjmVxwPBelDoTBX4Xt28QEGb94YP6jpLIjrk2kmhcNyrY9Ma+NuPuLeACRgivK iZ56FdmRHDoYq9hykMcn+6baCCle8T/pmI/rykavQs/9E8vu3AQ= =6Ivs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ptwwuo37ejqmwpwd--
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