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Date:      Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:55:37 -0700
From:      "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
To:        "Rob Lytle" <jan6146@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war 
Message-ID:  <20080703215537.6F3114504E@ptavv.es.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:28:50 PDT." <784966050807022128g6a6ebfebtc1f57c0da66779bc@mail.gmail.com> 

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> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:28:50 -0700
> From: "Rob Lytle" <jan6146@gmail.com>
> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I'm sorry I started a kind of flame war.  All I wanted was two things:  1.
> CD's that installed without being switched in and out dozens of times.  That
> was fixed by the suggestion of using a DVD.  I didn't even know the DVD
> install existed, but will do that next time.

You call this a flame war? It's been pretty civil and there are no scorch
marks on my display.

I agree that the disk swapping is not a good thing, but I simply avoid
it by never installing packages from sysinstall. I only use sysinstall
for FreeBSD.

Once I have FreeBSD installed, I update my ports tree with csup (but
portsnap is probably a better way) and install ruby and
portupgrade. Then I simply install the ports/packages I want using
'portinstall -P'. This assures that I have the latest ports and not
something stale. I can speed the process by copying all of the packages
from CD to my system (/usr/ports/packages/All). That way, only ports
that have been updated since the release will be downloaded and I only
have to change CDs a couple of times.


> 2.  Being able to use Sysinstall and not having it crash when a dependency
> is already present.  Sometimes I like to use Sysinstall to  install gigantic
> packages where the compile time is 26 hours, e.g KDE metapackage, and my
> notebook uses an Intel Core 2 Duo at 2Ghz or thereabout.  That is one hell
> of a long compile time.  For this request I will just have to wait for
> FreeBSD 10.0.

I have not seen this, but I don't sue sysinstall to install
packages/ports. 
-- 
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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