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Date:      Mon, 5 Nov 2001 02:19:30 -0800
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Mike Meyer" <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        <advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: NatWest? no thanks
Message-ID:  <004101c165e3$5b5715e0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <15333.31190.717768.983778@guru.mired.org>

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Meyer
>Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 9:25 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG; chat@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: RE: NatWest? no thanks
>
>
>> It may be cynical to say this but wouldn't it be cheaper if someone like
>> AOL was sued for access problems, for them to simply work with
>Microsoft and
>> release a blind-enabled IE than to redesign their many websites.  Not only
>> would it be cheaper but also profitable.
>
>What really happened when AOL was sued by the National Federation for
>the Blind is probably safer.. They settled out of court after AOL
>agreed to make the next version of their software accessible.
>MicroSoft didn't need to get involved.
>

Well, there you go - it's cheaper to redesign the AOL software than to
fix the sites it's being used to view.

>> 3) Even if there was a US Supreme Court ruling that mandated ADA for
>> commercial
>> websites, how would it apply if the website content was not about something
>> that a blind person can use.
>
>If a blind person were acting in some capacity for a a sighted person
>- i.e., considering buying a gift, or researching options or some such
>thing.
>

Hmmm... but how would a blind person research which porno site had the
better pictures?  Or how would a blind person select a modern art
painting for a gift?

>You know they really do put braille on the buttons in the
>drive-through ATMs.
>

:-)  Yeah, I've heard that joke before too, but actually since the
same people make the ATM's that are used both as walk-up and as
drive-through, your going to see that because it's cheaper to only
make one kind of button and use it in both types.

The ones that I can't figure out are the elevators in parking garages.
Unlike ATM's, elevator buttons aren't standard even within the same
manufacturer so the ATM reason doesen't apply there.


Ted Mittelstaedt                                       tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:                           The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:                          http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com



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