Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:00:04 +0400 From: Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org> To: Garance A Drosehn <gad@FreeBSD.org> Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "Chatty" config files in /etc Message-ID: <20060831100004.GB52914@rambler-co.ru> In-Reply-To: <p0623091dc11bbf999504@[128.113.24.47]> References: <200608290920.k7T9KmV9067843@repoman.freebsd.org> <86zmdmfoow.fsf@dwp.des.no> <p0623091cc11b704fff62@[128.113.24.47]> <20060830202834.GA11284@rambler-co.ru> <p0623091dc11bbf999504@[128.113.24.47]>
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--U+BazGySraz5kW0T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 08:15:57PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote: > At 12:28 AM +0400 8/31/06, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > >On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 01:41:51PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote: > > > > > ... I wonder if it would be better to > > > have the comments and examples as files under /etc/defaults. I > > > suppose they could also go under /usr/share/examples, but for > > > these files I think there is some advantage that the comments > > > and examples be on '/', and not on '/usr'. > > > > >> Also, if the comment+example files are under /etc/defaults, then > >> changes to them *will* come up in mergemaster. It's just that > >> now they will show up in a file that has no local changes, so > >> the user can just read the change, instead of having to "merge" > > > all their local changes with the new official version. > > > >I think they should be moved to /usr/share/examples/etc/ (like > >make.conf), with files in /etc/ representing good (short) defaults > >with a minimum of comments and probably references to examples. >=20 > Well, my thinking was something like: >=20 > a) these example/comment files are for "system" things. Many > people mount their /usr directories from somewhere else, > thus /usr might not be an exact match for the running kernel. > (note that make.conf makes sense for /usr/share/examples, > because the `make` command is also under /usr). >=20 And having inconsistency between /usr/lib/*.so*, /usr/bin, /usr/libexec, /usr/sbin and a running kernel? :-) /usr if often shared, indeed, but it usually does match the currently running kernel. Heck, why the kernel matters here? I'd say more important that the /usr be consistent with /lib. > b) by putting them in /etc/defaults, users do *see* the changes > when they run mergemaster, even though they won't have to > merge those changes with local changes. In some cases the > changes to the comments or examples will suggest some change > that the user should be making to their own already-working > configuration, even though their configuration won't match > the default system-config. I'm thinking when some comment > is added like: > # NOTE: Please see pf.conf(5) BUGS section before > # using user/group rules. >=20 No, /etc/defaults are different beasties -- they are true default config files -- they are either used if there's no corresponding version under /etc, or most likely sourced to provide defaults. To be moved to /etc/defaults, a file should gain the same property. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --U+BazGySraz5kW0T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE9rMkqRfpzJluFF4RAqPVAJ0eM5QM0Jxpdy0UttfyeVwM7XXiNQCfcjHx 8faijWt6itC0dMKTboPYAH0= =DWuo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --U+BazGySraz5kW0T--
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