Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:24:50 -0400 From: Shawn Webb <shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org> To: "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Cc: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de>, "Lundberg, Johannes" <johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp>, Adam McDougall <mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu>, David Chisnall <theraven@freebsd.org>, "current@freebsd.org" <current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Intel Haswell support - Any updates? Message-ID: <20150917152444.GA88816@mutt-hardenedbsd.hardenedbsd.dev> In-Reply-To: <20150917171215.7e8541bf.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <CAASDrV=D6viCDJx9yT5CiNf1ukiz_Rp1k5wqpk92xSyiNQTEqg@mail.gmail.com> <CAPS9%2BSuYq6JqzX=aHNgD=y5SUnBQ4x_Amk-6B0bvKc6kRQ5YVA@mail.gmail.com> <CAASDrVnxZ8MUmgCO-cFRVatUMQS1LHU-4XASSJckzp_FJbvd2w@mail.gmail.com> <09A515F2-44BA-4DF0-9792-D4C56EEB9D7C@FreeBSD.org> <CAASDrVnuVfOsJvNuOsAQaHYRQqFenH%2B3=wNDBO5GR5j2KgxsxQ@mail.gmail.com> <114F22EF-61E3-4D75-84FB-9D6E3FBCB8F3@FreeBSD.org> <20150917131333.GN1247@egr.msu.edu> <CAASDrVnNuh%2BjT-%2BZFTriPELfOB78accBqGmrVUE-MDgDPZoicA@mail.gmail.com> <20150917134809.GA3025@c720-r276659> <20150917171215.7e8541bf.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
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--C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 05:12:15PM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > Am Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:48:09 +0200 > Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> schrieb: >=20 > > El d??a Thursday, September 17, 2015 a las 10:41:43PM +0900, Lundberg, = Johannes escribi??: > >=20 > > > Same here. I would personally definitely buy new hardware from Intel = if > > > FreeBSD worked on it (not vesa...) > > > ... > >=20 > > What dow you have against vesa? I run CURRENT on some Acer C720 > > Chromebooks with Haswell chipset in Vesa mode. And you will not note it. > > I have never ever had such a fast desktop (KDE4) before. I can live fine > > with Vesa until Haswell suport is there. > >=20 > > matthias >=20 > At what resolution? I have some Lenovo Thinkpad E540, L540. Display resol= ution: > 1980x1080 dots. CPU: Intel i5-4200M, Haswell with HD4600 iGPU. The laptop= s do not work > with VESA driver - despite some claims of others, I never managed it to g= et the driver > working on exactly those system types! VESA's working fine for me, albeit slowly with YouTube videos, on my Lenovo Y50-70 at 1920x1080. I was running KDE4 before, but have since switched to i3wm for better hax efficiency. >=20 > The alternative framebuffer device is simply horror! >=20 > I was used to use VESA driver a while ago when FreeBSD fell back in AMD's= focus of > support with some AMD HD47XX and HD48XX frambuffers. Compared to the chea= pest nVidia GPU > board we plugged in then and the nVidia BLOB, VESA was incredibly slow, c= lumsy and not > very stable. That hasn't changed for now. GPUs got faster, so VESA might = not suffer from > non 2D/3D acceleration, but I never managed it to bring VESA to live for = resolutions > like 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 and even higher. That is - for a desktop/work= station system > - in my opinion "a must". For a notebook/laptop its 1980x1080. Everything= else is a toy > and for that one can also use crap Windooze OS. >=20 > Having now Ubuntu and Intel driver for the laptops, there is no need for = slow > workarounds like VESA. =20 Sounds like you have a solution for now. I'm excited for Haswell support to land. I applaud dumbbell for his efforts. I'm eagerly awaiting the CFT that will come out relatively soon. If you're impatient and want it now, I suggest taking a look at that code on GitHub that was posted in an earlier email on this thread. Fork it, hax it, then submit a pull request. Have an active part. Make your voice be heard through code contributions. Thanks, --=20 Shawn Webb HardenedBSD GPG Key ID: 0x6A84658F52456EEE GPG Key Fingerprint: 2ABA B6BD EF6A F486 BE89 3D9E 6A84 658F 5245 6EEE --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJV+ts5AAoJEGqEZY9SRW7ua8oP/3qts1MUKFkQM3jtKvcPYeM+ y529RzU//rfuBFvqwdmJbC/fYAZqFWkCUVgEPQaa5jnzhARA/y6pqz8kcR5y9pOj 3M2x9huv2nSaOBXTECiC3d7OzswLRSazVYFmupD3mncxFr472jCPQArVV64ng7XL SZSbyv3hYPtX45CFgd9Ik1kShcnIYLSYWUJpfWYVZNF380J7hTlI8+B+qWU3gKyC wbzY4p37crz3eS8jNV9PlL+Mr8yPeBj3vs3XXaCDHwkcJHAO9SAa4h4msKjwF1Pt cJCTst0PPc+DRnSIaVFsyCeKaVrk4st2vxmzeXrJc0yQSEJnPOiw2rj5DCYyD4cc 1qgYtOpgHOCmvRyYXz8VPzPKgbKaUbH1lW4B/J/SyraK4+XHSOvWNov3Qaofa8KJ rmpmlxea+x07gRomlCT1n/w8/IT8+XsbcP3jhMFJEGtR0D1FvAP5cbanathr8zew te99XvsW+6PrkrLxfjAUBB38fbSMcAxD1WglpxuSDjEwpOnVQCHPTWjO8KcsvqCy SiL3p5XaVUZ4GrQZqTWcYmV/ManD+zSupGZi/a5vvBsjHt6Cuslikq00r3sb1EGY N91aXZ3gji3AUdNJ+UUSS4XJ4zgUdOysiDz/VN6DiCJGJ/5FFB6Do6hY9NQbJ441 /470ymdKO/aopAQXkVfB =aNe4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc--
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