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Date:      Fri, 6 Jul 2001 17:50:36 +0200
From:      Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Plagiarism (Was: FreeBSD spokesman)
Message-ID:  <20010706175036.O99228@lpt.ens.fr>
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010706093248.04533cf0@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 09:40:59AM -0600
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Brett Glass said on Jul  6, 2001 at 09:40:59:
> At 09:31 AM 7/6/2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> 
> >[Greg] abided by perfectly adequate attribution standards for this medium.
> 
> Not so. Daemon News is a technical journal that also appears in print.

Most newspapers and magazines that I'm aware of do appear in print.
That does not make them technical journals.

> >I still assume that the authors are consistent and don't
> >change the meaning of a verb mid-sentence.
> 
> Again, see the Merriam-Webster definition online.

So here it is:
   plagiarize
   [etymology etc skipped]
   transitive senses : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of  
   another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting
   the source       
   intransitive senses : to commit literary theft : present as new and
   original an idea or product derived from an existing source

I fail to see how it supports your position any better than the
Webster print version.

> No, Rahul, YOU are. Your arguments have been so weak that you've 
> now resorted to arguing ad hominem against authoritative sources
> such as Webster's dictionary and the MLA Manual.

No.  I don't like Webster, but it supports me on this.  So does your
online Merriam-Webster.  Your quote from the MLA manual is one single
sentence with the ambiguous word "use" which I consider inadequate;
besides, I never criticised that work: I'm not at all familiar with
it.

R

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