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Date:      Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:40:44 +0100
From:      Willem Offermans <Willem@Offermans.Rompen.nl>
To:        Marten <info@martenvijn.nl>
Cc:        Willem@Offermans.Rompen.nl, freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: nanobsd and mutli vap support
Message-ID:  <20160311134044.GD1568@vpn.offrom.nl>
In-Reply-To: <9E0C897C-8C93-4FE0-82A3-42E5FBF07D67@martenvijn.nl>
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Hello Marten and FreeBSD friends,

On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 03:14:52PM +0100, Marten wrote:
> 
> > On Mar 9, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Willem Offermans <Willem@Offermans.Rompen.nl> wrote:
> > 
> > Dear Marten and FreeBSD friends,
> > 
> > On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 01:49:32PM +0100, Marten wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Willem Offermans <Willem@Offermans.Rompen.nl> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Marten and FreeBSD friends,
> >>> 
> >>> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 11:38:22PM +0100, Marten wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> 
> >>>> While it tool me a while how get multi  VAP support working on FreeBSD I made a write
> >>>> up how to get it working… The site is in dutch, but I think the drawing and configs
> >>>> are clear enough to save some people some time…
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://makerspaceleiden.nl/wiki/index.php/NetworkSetup_AP <http://makerspaceleiden.nl/wiki/index.php/NetworkSetup_AP>;
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> If another place a full english it wish feel free to copy and translate,
> >>>> where off course I am willing to help...
> >>>> 
> >>>> So thanks for all your work,
> >>>> cheers Marten
> >>> 
> >>> Maybe I have missed the previous e-mails, but could you provide some
> >>> context to your project on makerspaceleiden? I would be highly interested.
> >>> What is ``Alix board'' you are referring to in your text?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi Will,
> >> 
> >> The Alix board are embedded soc boards from pcengines.ch <http://pcengines.ch/>;  here we also got the atheros wlancards, casings, pigtails and antenna’s.
> >> If are looking for hardware you could also check soekris.com <http://soekris.com/>; .
> >> 
> >> If you need some hardware for testing pls let me know..
> >> 
> >> The MakerSpace a kind of offtopic on this list, so ‘ll email you a longer email off list.
> >> 
> >> But in a null shell:
> >> Our infrastructure runs FreeBSD on the core router/firewall, mqtt, mail , http server and NanoBSD on the accents points.
> >> We have linux on the door system (RFID+Actuators) and LoraWan Gateway.
> >> There some arduino-code on ESP’s (NodeMCU) for our sensor network that posts to the mqtt server..
> >> 
> >> Kinds regards,
> >> Marten
> >> 
> > 
> > I'm planning to ``build'' wireless access points myself. I would love to
> > run them on nanobsd. I prefer to have several networks at the end:
> > 
> > - admin net1
> > - gebruikers net2
> > - gasten net3
> > 
> > Basically the same as you provide in your NetworkSetup_AP. I imagine to
> > tune a firewall such that the networks (i.e. net1, net2, and net3) are
> > separated. So that the users (gebruikers) can use the services of an
> > available server and the guests (gasten) can only use (a limited amount of)
> > the internet and no access or only limited access to the server.
> > 
> > Would this be possible with your approach?
> That is what we do, the filtering is done with pf on the router
> and the router has some jails..
> > 
> > If yes, could you help me to do this project step by step.
> in a limited timespan .. ( or hire me :) )
> > 
> > If yes, probably I need to order the appropriate hardware. Can you be more
> > specific about the hardware you were using?
> > 
> > -Alix board? Which one?
> 
> i think this one:
> http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d2.htm <http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d2.htm>;
> 
> 
> > -The board needs to be in a case at the end. Which case?
> 
> I would reuse the current cases because i need more space for a 802.3at compliant poe splitter..
> 
> > -Which wireless network adapters?
> > etc.
> I have choose for 11a only and 11g only adapters no 11a/g
>  try to find terminators for not user antenna connectors like:
> 
> http://www.pcengines.ch/mmcxterm.htm
> 
> so something like this
> 
> layer2 : modem <=uplink=> freebsd router <=vlan trunk => switch + PoE <=> wlan trunk => ap’s
> 
> layer3:  internet <->  router/firewall/dhcpd <-> ap <-> notebook
> 
> We have separate 802.3at compliant (try china) adapters to power the ap’s
> 
> I bought the hardware about 8 years  ago for another project,
> you will need some time to familiarize your self with the hardware. Making a shopping list
> is only a couple of ours work.
> 
> I am currenty ordering a http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm <http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm>; to see it can replace
> my current 1U  router to have less power consumption and noise.
> 
> > 
> > I might consider to write a detailed manual on this project. This would
> > certainly help other people in developing such infrastructure.
> 
> 
> That why i wrote the wiki page, i would be nice to get such content in the FreeBSD  handbook ...
> 
> 
> cheers Marten
> 

I have made a first shopping list:

apu1d4 System board                             http://pcengines.ch/apu1d4.htm                  1x
wle200nx 802.11 a/b/g/n miniPCI express radio   http://pcengines.ch/wle200nx.htm                1x
antsmadb Antenna                                http://pcengines.ch/antsmadb.htm                2x
pigsma  RF cable                                http://pcengines.ch/pigsma.htm                  2x
case1d2blku Enclosure 3 LAN USB black           http://pcengines.ch/case1d2blku.htm             1x
msata16d  16 GB mSATA SSD module                http://pcengines.ch/msata16d.htm                1x

Can you give a comment on it?

Would it possibly work?

Do I forget an important component?


-- 
Met vriendelijke groeten,
With kind regards,
Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
De jrus wah,

Will

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