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Date:      Sun, 04 Jun 2006 16:14:50 -0500
From:      "Jack Stone" <antennex@hotmail.com>
To:        duane@dwlabs.ca
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
Message-ID:  <BAY106-F4A41E5F3149D9ABDA91D2CC970@phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <20060604205811.GB960@dwpc.dwlabs.ca>

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>From: Duane Whitty <duane@dwlabs.ca>
>To: Jack Stone <antennex@hotmail.com>
>CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
>Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:58:11 -0300
>
>On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 02:57:38PM -0500, Jack Stone wrote:
> > >From: "Jack Stone" <antennex@hotmail.com>
> > >To: wmoran@collaborativefusion.com
> > >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> > >Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:52:01 -0500
> > >
> > >>From: Bill Moran <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
> > >>To: "Jack Stone" <antennex@hotmail.com>
> > >>CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > >>Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> > >>Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:40:22 -0400
> > >>
> > >>"Jack Stone" <antennex@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> >From: Chris Hill <chris@monochrome.org>
> > >>> >To: Jack Stone <antennex@hotmail.com>
> > >>> >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > >>> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> > >>> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> >>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >[...]
> > >>> >
> > >>> >>Here are the files and the error message:
> > >>> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not
> > >>permitted
> > >>> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not 
>permitted
> > >>> >
> > >>> >Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set:
> > >>> >
> > >>> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
> > >>> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm
> > >>> >
> > >>> >...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag
> > >>would
> > >>> >be set, but it's something to try.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >HTH.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >--
> > >>> >Chris Hill               chris@monochrome.org
> > >>>
> > >>> Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy!
> > >>
> > >>If flags and permissions are all set so that the files should delete, 
>and
> > >>they still don't, reboot the system into single user mode and fsck the
> > >>partition.
> > >>
> > >>I had this happen a number of years ago.  We had dirty power and the
> > >>system
> > >>would reboot on occasion during brownout.  We finally got UPS on the
> > >>system,
> > >>but months later we had files that wouldn't delete.  The only way we
> > >>finally
> > >>got rid of them was to reboot in single user and fsck.  I expect the 
>disk
> > >>suffered some subtle corruption during an unclean boot and it took 
>time
> > >>before we noticed.
> > >>
> > >>Another option would be to use fstat to make sure nothing has the 
>files
> > >>open.
> > >>
> > >>HTH.
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Bill Moran
> > >>
> > >
> > >Hi, Bill: Yes, tried all of that before and again no joy -- very 
>mysteries.
> > >A free cigar to anyone who solves this one!
> > >
> >
> > Since I learned I could "mv" the directory that contains the 2 files, I
> > tried to move it to another partition, figuring I had a solution IF I 
>could
> > only do that.
> >
> > Here's the new error when I tried to move the directory from "/" to /usr
> >
> > mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link
> >
> > Does this new hint stike any bells?
> >
> > THX
> > Jack
> >
>Hi,
>
>Since you can move the directory can you move (rename) the file?
>If you can mv just the files can you access/modify the files?
>
>Because of the cross-device link error message maybe this is hard link
>related?  Any files with the same name floating around?  Obviously this
>isn't normal hard link behaviour but maybe a link was somehow damaged?
>
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Duane Whitty
>--
>duane@dwlabs.ca

I can move the entire directory package, i.e.,
local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
.... but, not just the file.
Also, any move must be within the same partition.

I cannot get it to reveal the crosslink that is preventing the removal.

THX
Jack

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