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Date:      Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:04:52 -0500
From:      "Pedro Fernando Giffuni" <pfgiffun@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co>
To:        Phil Regnauld <regnauld@ftf.net>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Oh my, penguins are a'comin': DebianBSD
Message-ID:  <37949E24.EC9D71BB@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co>
References:  <19990720171033.10907@ns.int.ftf.net>

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It's not a nightmare, sooner or later someone would have the idea of
bringing together the best kernel with the most popular userland. 
I understand, from the little I've read, that they will respect the BSD
license in the kernel, but they are planning to port glibc and other
linuxisms. In any case I doubt that Walnut Creek would lose market (I
won't switch), in fact we might start attracting "debianers" to the real
thing. IMHO DebianBSD will eventually die like other FreeBSD and linux
distributions have.

	Pedro.

Phil Regnauld escribió:
> 
>         Someone wake me up from this nightmare.
> 
> ------- Forwarded Message
> 
> From: Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org>
> Subject: Re: The project
> To: hamish@debian.org (Hamish Moffatt)
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:58:00 -0700 (PDT)
> Cc: debian-bsd@lists.debian.org
> 
> > That's a fine idea, but my response is always: to whom would this be valuable?
> > What is the target audience of the "Debian GNU/FreeBSD" system? Are you hoping
> > to convert Debian GNU/Linux users, or FreeBSD users?
> >
> > > I started with a freshly installed FreeBSD 3.2 system. The standard
> > > distribution of FreeBSD sucks (IMO of course, but since this is a Debian
> >
> > Well, I'd be interested to know what you think sucks so that we can justify
> > our efforts in the future. I think there are some good things and some
> > bad things. I don't like the way that FreeBSD packages don't make an effort
> > to configure themselves for your system, for one thing.
> >
> >
> 
>         Lest we (this list) get carried away in self-flagellation or
>         in circular debates over the GPL/BSD licenses, let's agree on
>         the many strengths of each ``side.'' --And I do not see BSD
>         and Linux as *sides*, but participants in the larger open-source
>         tide, BTW.
> 
>         Both Debian and BSD share more good points than have opposing,
>         I think.  If the aim of a DebianBSD is to create an open-source
>         system with a superior kernel, then the present FreeBSD effort
>         has that.  It stands up to massive loads ...   And if an aim
>         is to integrate the unqualified Best software (free or commercial),
>         anything GNU  is strictly first-rate.
> 
>         I think that over time (months to a few years) a DebianBSD
>         distribution would attract newer and seasoned users from every
>         corner.  Nobody who is hardcore BSD or hardcore Debian is going
>         to be `converted' ... and that's fine.
> 
>         A DBSD would shrinkwrap the best of both.
> 
>         gary
> 
> >
> 
> - --
>    Gary D. Kline         kline@tao.thought.org          Public service Unix
> 
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