Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:38:47 +0100 From: Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be> To: David Murphy <drjolt@redbrick.dcu.ie>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Voxware is toast. Get used to it. (Re: Suggestions for improving newpcm performance?) Message-ID: <v04220815b4fd1c95611c@[195.238.1.121]> In-Reply-To: <20000321121048.E49550@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> References: <200003191838.KAA40955@rah.star-gate.com> <000701bf91d5$4aebeb60$0304020a@NENYA> <001a01bf91c1$7f62a4b0$0304020a@NENYA> <200003191838.KAA40955@rah.star-gate.com> <20000319220453.A65973@ipass.net> <005d01bf9221$4660ac60$0304020a@NENYA> <20000320153429.A1373@ipass.net> <v04220803b4fcf1e15773@[195.238.1.121]> <20000321121048.E49550@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie>
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At 12:10 PM +0000 2000/3/21, David Murphy wrote: > The problem is, -RELEASE is pushed out like a new release of a > commercial OS, with big announcements, etc. etc., so people expect it > to have been subject to a similar level of prerelease beta testing. It has gotten *way* more testing than any Microsoft x.0 release, but it's still not ready for prime-time. The difference is that Microsoft will tell you to switch everything over ASAP (since it "fixes" all those old bugs you've been having to live with), and then they'll take in *huge* amounts of money as you pay to upgrade all your other software, and as they get more licenses shipped because you have to buy all new hardware to run all their new bloatware that runs on their new 63,000+ bug-ridden OS. > Clearly this is not and cannot be the case, and IMHO therefore it > should not be labeled -RELEASE, but -EARLYACCESS or similar. This has been debated before. The problem is that so long as it is called -BETA, -EARLYACCESS, or whatever, people will stay away from it in droves, and we'll never run across most of the problems that remain to be debugged. At some point, you *MUST* declare that this has gone on long enough, and that it is time to cut a -RELEASE version. At which point, everybody and their brother jumps on it and stupidly tries to install it on all their production systems. I think the folks who bring you FreeBSD are being much more intelligent about this -- they name it -RELEASE, they encourage you to take a look at it on non-production hardware, but they *DISCOURAGE* you from running it on production hardware, because there haven't been enough people testing it yet. What is so hard to understand about that? -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, <blk@skynet.be> || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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