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Date:      Sun, 12 May 2019 08:54:35 +0200
From:      Gary Jennejohn <gljennjohn@gmail.com>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net>, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>, Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FCP-101: obsolete driver removal planned for 2019-05-18
Message-ID:  <20190512085435.0b7dc847@ernst.home>
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfrUNGbjBOUF0BLMf_V=qiSyoDRSLRTJgHjF-vFyPzQBWA@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <201905111433.x4BEWnlX058386@fire.js.berklix.net> <3c911071-f794-1e27-87e1-16a789a95852@grosbein.net> <CANCZdfrUNGbjBOUF0BLMf_V=qiSyoDRSLRTJgHjF-vFyPzQBWA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sat, 11 May 2019 20:21:46 -0500
Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:

> On Sat, May 11, 2019, 12:52 PM Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net> wrote:
> 
> > 11.05.2019 21:32, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> >  
> > >> I've posted a review to remove obsolete 10 and 10/100 Ethernet drivers
> > >> as previous approved in FCP-101.
> > >> The following drivers are slated for
> > >> removal from FreeBSD-HEAD (to be FreeBSD-13):
> > >>
> > >> ae, bm, cs, de, ed, ep, ex, fe, pcn, sf, sn, tl, tx, txp, vx, wb, xe  
> > >
> > > OMG ! ed ! That EOL's loads of PC boxes I have (& a show box of
> > > spare)  that will never be able to upgrade.  
> >
> > Do those boxes have 10M-only or 100Mbps variants of ed(4)?
> > What kind of hardware do they have (CPU and memory-wise)?
> >  
> 

More relevant questions might be
1) will these drivers only be removed from FBSD >= 13?
2) what versions of FBSD is Julian now running on his hardware?
3) does he ever plan to upgrade this hardware to >= FBSD 13?

I know Julian and he has an amazing collection of old hardware.  I
suspect that most of it will not even be able to run FBSD 13.

> 
> There are no 100M ed variants. There are some PC Card variants that have
> 100M MII connections, but they are limited to about 12Mbps due to bus
> limits. Even the PCI ones didn't have 100M mii connections.
> 


-- 
Gary Jennejohn (gj@)



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