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Date:      Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:00:01 +0200
From:      "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
To:        "Maintainer of FreeBSD Mailman" <mandree@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, Greg Veldman <freebsd@gregv.net>, Chris <portmaster@bsdforge.com>
Subject:   Re: mail/mailman v3?
Message-ID:  <202004291500.03TF01F4049616@fire.js.berklix.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message "Tue, 28 Apr 2020 22:43:36 -0400." <20200429024336.GT1068@aurora.gregv.net>

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Greg Veldman wrote ports@:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 01:02:14PM -0700, Chris wrote:
> > It also wouldn't be that difficult to simply modify mailman(2)
> > to adopt the py3.x language changes.
> 
> To simply make it work, perhaps not.  To make it work well and
> be reliable... might be more difficult than you think.  A large
> chunk of what a mail handler of any variety does is text
> processing, and there are significant differences in that area
> in Python2 vs Python3.  E.g. ASCII vs Unicode.  You'd likely
> be opening a Pandora's box of corner cases and workarounds when
> $STUPIDLY_FORMATTED_MAIL_MESSAGE_OF_THE_HOUR comes through.
> 
> The effort would probably be better spent enhancing Mailman3,
> since that's the future of the project anyway.
> 
> Also, as someone that's been a Mailman site admin on installs
> of various sizes for about the past 20 years, I'm sort of looking
> forward to the promises of some of the little quirks of Mailman2
> getting some love. ;-)

Hi ports@

This may be tangential to aboveon python versions, but:
ports/mail/mailman supports Mailman2.
Mailman2 & Mailman3 are very different.

Even if it's possible to bend ports/mail/mailman to support Mailman3
Please do not do it; keep it clean for just Mailman2
(Else it would cause big run time problems for user admins (inc. me)).

Any who will want Mailman3 should please clone ports/mail/mailman to
ports/mail/mailman3 (not ports/mail/mailman2) & work there. Thanks

Cheers
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Julian Stacey, Consultant Systems Engineer, BSD Linux http://berklix.com/jhs/
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