Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:02:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andre Hall" <ahall@pcgameauthority.com> To: Bruce M Simpson <bms@spc.org>, Mark Valentine <mark@thuvia.demon.co.uk>, Josef Karthauser <joe@tao.org.uk>, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spark 5. Message-ID: <200209261602.g8QG2V4w016420@inetworx.pcgameauthority.com>
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You think the Ultra 5 is one of the worst models Sun released? It's not a real Sun? What are you guys smoking? Whatever it is I don't want any. :o) The Ultra 5 are very good machines. They are a workstation/small server class machine and they serve their purpose very well. What? You don't like the fact that they have a standard VGA connection or use an IDE hard drive? Nothing wrong with that. As a matter of fact The Ultra 5 was probably the first Sun box that was affordable enough for most of us geeks to buy. If you recall, Sun has had a reputation of being EXTREMELY expensive. The Ultra 10 is not very different in its configuration either. They are very much Sun boxes. A UltraSparc CPU, motherboard, and lets not forget the Sun specific memory. Sounds like a Sun to me. I understand where you were coming from but everything that Sun has produced to replace the Ultra 5 is PC class. Take a look at the Sun Blade 100. I picked up a Ultra 5 at Defcon this summer for $300. I got a 300MHz, 256MB RAM and a 9GB hard drive and Solaris 9. Your points were duly noted. I have heard this argument before so I figured I'd chime in. Good day fellas. I do have a Sparc 5 I'm either going to donate to Goodwill or sell on Ebay for $60 US. > On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 03:17:24AM +0100, Mark Valentine wrote: > > > Do we run on Spark 5? Someone's selling one and a monitor for 300 UK > > > pounds. Is it worth getting hold of? > > > > Not for FreeBSD (sun4u only, I believe); SPARC 5 is sun4m (32-bit only). > > I concur. The SPARC port is for sun4u only. Unless you meant you were up for > the challenge of bootstrapping FreeBSD on sun4m (or even sun4c). ;-) > > > £300 is expensive - a 170MHz SPARCstation 5 goes for £75 and up on eBay > > in the UK (without monitor), and I think a monitor will go for about £40. > > I wouldn't bother with the monitor, because such things are huge, fixed > frequency thus don't work with anything else. When the PROM code detects > that no keyboard is plugged in, it should default to using ttya as a console. > > If only PCs did this... one day! > > > The Ultra 5 is more expensive and faster, but it's PC class, not a real > > Sun. > > Agreed. Possibly one of the nastiest models Sun brought out. > > BMS > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > -- NeoMail - Webmail that doesn't suck... as much. http://neomail.sourceforge.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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