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Date:      Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:57:30 -0700 (PDT)
From:      John Kozubik <john@kozubik.com>
To:        Pietro Cerutti <gahr@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...
Message-ID:  <20080619154909.A1807@kozubik.com>
In-Reply-To: <485AD73C.4080605@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <20080619135114.Y1807@kozubik.com> <485AD73C.4080605@FreeBSD.org>

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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Pietro Cerutti wrote:

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> John Kozubik wrote:
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> | Don't shoot the messenger:
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> | FreeBSD is not useful as a desktop environment without the ability to
> | support Flash in a stable, well-performing fashion.
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> gnash-devel provides flash 9 and works pretty well...


That's why I discounted that as a solution.  I am a FreeBSD desktop user,
not a FreeBSD desktop developer.  I, and many others, do not have time to
hack around with gnash working "pretty well".

I'm not trying to discount thier efforts, but Adobe makes an honest to god
release version of flash for Linux, and FreeBSD runs linux binaries very
well.  I think this is the right direction to move in, especially if
maintenance and support are (hopefully) going to be provided in some
official capacity by the project itself.

The key point here is that flash support has changed qualitatively from
being something convenient and helpful to being _absolutely necessary_ for
any kind of day to day work with a web browser[1].  That is why I am
suggesting that the FreeBSD project itself take an official interest in
making sure that it works.



[1] A sad commentary, especially when most flash content is completely
superfluous, often providing nothing but static images and/or text.




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