Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:45:30 -0800 From: Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org> To: Rico Secada <coolzone@io.dk> Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time to kill FreeBSD as a Desktop Message-ID: <20070329234530.GA14805@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20070329234634.c12b803b.coolzone@io.dk> References: <20070329234634.c12b803b.coolzone@io.dk>
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:46:34PM +0200, Rico Secada wrote: > Hi All. > > I have been using FreeBSD as a desktop system, on serveral computers for about one and a half year now. I truly love FreeBSD! But keeping third party ports/packages updated is just to timeconsuming IMHO. > > Building everything from ports is ok, on a quick machine, but even on a quick machine building KDE takes a LOT of time. Waiting until the stable packages are ready takes about 2 - 3 weeks, and until then, a lot of other stuff needs to be updated. > > Compared to Debian GNU/Linux's "apt-get update && apt-get dist upgrade" command, OR OpenBSD's "pkg-add -u" > > >From OpenBSD's man page for "pkg_add": > > -u Update the given pkgname(s), and anything it depends upon. If > no pkgname is given, pkg_add will update all installed packages. > This relies on PKG_PATH to figure out the new package names. > > I really think it is time for FreeBSD to make it more easy to update binary packages, like on OpenBSD. Until recent months, I was hyping the Ubuntu distro of Deb/Linux. *Everything* was push-button. Well, okay, my first upgrade was a disastrous week or three long series of do-overs. But the second upgrade (to 6.06) was push-buttons and wait until several hundred megs came across my 144k ISDL. I was eager to move up to 6.10, but the first several forum posts gave me pause. Nutshell is that you can [easily] upgrade every "Long-Term Support" version. But these are 2 or three years apart. And the backports are often "unofficial" (ya' takes yer risks). I'm still pretty happy with older Gnome and KDE, older apps. The Berkeley distros have the leading-edge versions, but at least we (FBSD) don't have an easy way of upgrading ports. I'll stick with the rock-solid stability of FreeBSD for my DNS server. I'll test things that will improve the performance of my slower servers--(tuning)--and be ready to offer ideas, even SWAGS, on upgrading. So: real work here; play/AV or mostly Audio or Ubuntu. gary > > Best and kind regards, > Rico > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix
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