Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:39:22 -0500 From: "William H. Magill" <magill@mcgillsociety.org> To: Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Documentation and similar issues with 5.3 Message-ID: <113C217E-60D3-11D9-8564-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> In-Reply-To: <20050107160308.GA63225@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200501031101.j03B1wtR006075@freefall.freebsd.org> <D009527A-6001-11D9-9997-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> <20050106182644.GA57934@freebie.xs4all.nl> <05847D56-604E-11D9-8A59-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> <20050107160308.GA63225@freebie.xs4all.nl>
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On 07 Jan, 2005, at 11:03, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 08:47:00PM -0500, William H. Magill wrote.. >> On 06 Jan, 2005, at 13:26, Wilko Bulte wrote: >>>> 2) Does anybody have any descriptions of "rational" disk layouts for >>>> 4 or 9 gig drives? [Both boot and "other"] >>>> ... especially since I have a "blue" SW shelf of "VW" drives. >>> >>> You could use Auto from sysinstall for a start. >> >> As I recall, I couldn't get "Auto" to work. I had to define layouts >> manually. > > That is strange, given that it worked for me the last times I built the > release ISOs. We have had problems in the past with disks that > contained previous Tru64 or OVMS data / disklabels. Zeroing the disks > before use with 'dd' or somesuch fixed that. I do believe this issue > was fixed but I am not sure. In this particular case, the disk had previously had OpenBSD installed. However, I had been unable to install OpenBSD until I used the "Jump Start" CD from Q to "clear" the old labels. (The disk prior to that had had NetBSD Installed on it!) Is there an installation "log file" where values and etc input are recorded? > OK, yes, we mean different things. Formatting for me is sending your > SCSI > disks a FORMAT UNIT SCSI command. Creating filesystems / newfs-ing > are obviously needed to do something sensible with the disks Ok, that's what I guessed. After thinking a bit I realized that I had lapsed into "unspecific terminology." Thinking back, I can't remember when the last time was that I wound up issuing a FORMAT Unit command for any reason! >>> fdisk is a PeeCee concept, it is not used on Alpha. >> >> It would be good if there was something, somewhere which said that ... >> like maybe in section 2.2 of the hardware notes. > > Well, yeah... There is probably more like this stuff missing. Lemme > see > if I can add that info. Note that there is a generic and a Alpha > specific > part in the notes, these are generated from different source files. > proc-alpha.sgml is my baby, and like the name indicates contains the > alpha > specific stuff. I'll go through my notes and "pay attention" when I re-install, to see if there is anything else that might be of particular difference with the Alpha install. The one thing which I have noticed, however, is that that there is nothing I have been able to find which recommends partition sizes, especially for various disk geometries. As I recall, there were quite a number of "unused sector" (or something like that) messages during the initialization. The partition sizes I picked wound up with only 39% used for / but 70% used for /usr, and 2% for /var. With a 9 gig drive: xp1> sudo disklabel da0 # /dev/da0: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 262144 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 16392 b: 2097152 262144 swap c: 17773524 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 409600 2359296 4.2BSD 2048 16384 25608 e: 4194304 2768896 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 f: 10810324 6963200 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 Where: a= / b= swap d= /var e= /usr f= /local0 I think I used A- 100 meg B- 2 gig D- 400 meg E-4 gig F- rest. (I did use the "meg" and "gig" terms in the initilaization) T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 [Rev A motherboard - 300 MHz 768 Meg] OS X 10.2.8 # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) [800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg] OS X 10.3.7 # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg] Tru64 5.1a # XP1000 [Alpha 21264-3 (EV6) - 256 meg] FreeBSD 5.3 # XP1000 [Alpha 21264-A (EV 6.7) - 384 meg] FreeBSD 5.3 magill@mcgillsociety.org magill@acm.org magill@mac.com whmagill@gmail.com
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