Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 14:58:52 -0500 From: Nikolai Lifanov <lifanov@mail.lifanov.com> To: Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>,Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> Cc: Thomas Mueller <mueller6724@bellsouth.net>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, NGie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Packaging the FreeBSD base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <8CFEB1BA-1957-4BB4-980A-76199D3B831C@mail.lifanov.com> In-Reply-To: <20160128182322.GP98557@FreeBSD.org> References: <20160127223323.GG98557@FreeBSD.org> <183431.62409.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20160128131806.GB67200@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20160128160622.GB88527@zxy.spb.ru> <A639FA8D-8922-4BA9-8C24-57B48EFACDAA@gmail.com> <20160128173836.GD88527@zxy.spb.ru> <3A5AAF2B-F9CF-41B3-A97C-FF208803428A@gmail.com> <20160128181253.GE88527@zxy.spb.ru> <20160128182322.GP98557@FreeBSD.org>
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On January 28, 2016 1:23:22 PM EST, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 09:12:53PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: >> I see two hudge problem for support upgrades from older RELEASE >> versions (supported too): key (used for repo signing) change and need >> to access ports packages to install (installed outdated release can't >> find pkg packet for install). >> >> Can you more detailed describe current propolsal of new packaging >> system? pkg is part of base installed packages? Or after installing >> base packages pkg installed from `ports`? For disc1.iso case. >> >> How handled boot/device.hints and var/db/etcupdate? >> >> How handled boot block updates? > >These are all valid questions, but let's take a step back for a bit, >and >not put the carriage in front of the horse. > >The initial email in this thread was intended to provide an update on >the status. Some things, such as file merging, is already in place in >a few of the packages. Not all, yet. > >Unexpected things are going to happen. That is the only thing that is >a guarantee right now. In other words, implementation (from what is >now >in the project branch) may change. And yes, there needs to be a way to >upgrade from older releases. > >But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. > >Glen Can we have verbose and/or semi-interactive configuration merge, as offered by etcupdate or mergemaster? - Nikolai Lifanov From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 22:36:02 2016 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4403DA7149A; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 22:36:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9F931626; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 22:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id l66so31243519wml.0; 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Thu, 28 Jan 2016 14:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from ivaldir.etoilebsd.net ([2001:41d0:8:db4c::1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id az10sm12980009wjc.28.2016.01.28.14.35.59 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 28 Jan 2016 14:35:59 -0800 (PST) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin <baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 23:35:54 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Nikolai Lifanov <lifanov@mail.lifanov.com> Cc: Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>, Thomas Mueller <mueller6724@bellsouth.net>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, NGie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Packaging the FreeBSD base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <20160128223553.GD67200@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <20160127223323.GG98557@FreeBSD.org> <183431.62409.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20160128131806.GB67200@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20160128160622.GB88527@zxy.spb.ru> <A639FA8D-8922-4BA9-8C24-57B48EFACDAA@gmail.com> <20160128173836.GD88527@zxy.spb.ru> <3A5AAF2B-F9CF-41B3-A97C-FF208803428A@gmail.com> <20160128181253.GE88527@zxy.spb.ru> <20160128182322.GP98557@FreeBSD.org> <8CFEB1BA-1957-4BB4-980A-76199D3B831C@mail.lifanov.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RYJh/3oyKhIjGcML" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8CFEB1BA-1957-4BB4-980A-76199D3B831C@mail.lifanov.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current <freebsd-current.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-current>, <mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current>, <mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 22:36:02 -0000 --RYJh/3oyKhIjGcML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 02:58:52PM -0500, Nikolai Lifanov wrote: >=20 >=20 > On January 28, 2016 1:23:22 PM EST, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > >On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 09:12:53PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > >> I see two hudge problem for support upgrades from older RELEASE > >> versions (supported too): key (used for repo signing) change and need > >> to access ports packages to install (installed outdated release can't > >> find pkg packet for install). > >>=20 > >> Can you more detailed describe current propolsal of new packaging > >> system? pkg is part of base installed packages? Or after installing > >> base packages pkg installed from `ports`? For disc1.iso case. > >>=20 > >> How handled boot/device.hints and var/db/etcupdate? > >>=20 > >> How handled boot block updates? > > > >These are all valid questions, but let's take a step back for a bit, > >and > >not put the carriage in front of the horse. > > > >The initial email in this thread was intended to provide an update on > >the status. Some things, such as file merging, is already in place in > >a few of the packages. Not all, yet. > > > >Unexpected things are going to happen. That is the only thing that is > >a guarantee right now. In other words, implementation (from what is > >now > >in the project branch) may change. And yes, there needs to be a way to > >upgrade from older releases. > > > >But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. > > > >Glen >=20 > Can we have verbose and/or semi-interactive configuration merge, as offer= ed by etcupdate or mergemaster? pkg has a merging mercanism (which one can disable if scared) which will automatically merge everything it can and live a file .new if a conflict ha= ppen (or merging disabled) Would be easy to write an etcupdate like that walk through /etc and propose= a semi-interactive merging mechanism. 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