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Date:      Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:19:14 +0400
From:      Roman Kurakin <rik@inse.ru>
To:        Daniel Gerzo <danger@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        David Malone <dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie>, cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG, src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man9 style.9
Message-ID:  <4875D412.1040304@localhost.inse.ru>
In-Reply-To: <753889164.20080710011045@rulez.sk>
References:  <200807091404.m69E4jiC075715@repoman.freebsd.org> <20080709154945.GA47824@zim.MIT.EDU> <4874FE82.5090809@localhost.inse.ru> <753889164.20080710011045@rulez.sk>

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Daniel Gerzo wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
> Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 8:08:02 PM, has been written:
>
>   
>>>> -Do not declare functions inside other functions; ANSI C says that
>>>> -such declarations have file scope regardless of the nesting of the
>>>> -declaration.
>>>> -Hiding file declarations in what appears to be a local
>>>> -scope is undesirable and will elicit complaints from a good compiler.
>>>> +Do not declare functions inside other functions; nested functions are
>>>> +a GCC extension and are not permitted by ANSI C.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> We use lots of extensions that aren't strict ANSI C. I think the
>>> real reason not to use them is that gcc's nested functions are
>>> particularly unwieldily. First, they're not true lexical closures
>>> (and can't be), which makes them much less useful. Second, they
>>> are unsupported unless a number of assumptions are met, e.g., must
>>> have an executable stack, must be able to invalidate the I cache
>>> from userland, and must not have separate I and D address spaces.
>>> Nested functions abominable enough that Apple disabled the feature
>>> in OS X's build of gcc --- and the Sun and Intel compilers don't
>>> support them, even though Intel claims nearly complete gcc
>>> compatibility.
>>>   
>>>       
>> I think from non-technical side, nested functions are not expected by 
>> most programmers.
>>  From my point of view there are many new extensions that a good for 
>> quick hacking, but
>> not for the production code.
>>     
>
> So may I leave my change in the current state, or do you guys want me
> to do some additional changes?
>   
IMHO "are not permitted by ANSI" is not secure enough in case ANSI will 
release
a new edition. And some one may say "hey it is permitted by ANSI now, 
let start using
it".

rik





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