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Date:      Fri, 21 Jul 2000 16:14:39 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Dirk Kleinhesselink <dkleinh@phy.ucsf.edu>
To:        wilko@freebsd.org
Cc:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com>, mjacob@feral.com, alpha@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 4.1-20000719-RC#2
Message-ID:  <Pine.OSF.3.95.1000721154553.22669C-100000@amadeus.ucsf.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20000722002214.A22611@freebie.demon.nl>

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I got the problem on my PC164 system with, if I remember correctly, Tru64
on my one SCSI disk and Linux on the 2nd IDE disk.  I was going to replace
the Tru64 with FreeBSD on the SCSI disk.  I also installed NetBSD on the
SCSI and got the problem.   I may have also wiped the SCSI disk using
linux making a DOS style partition table and Linux ext2 filesystem but it
still failed by having Linux bootable on the ide disk.


On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 01:57:08PM -0700, Dirk Kleinhesselink wrote:
> 
> Is there any ordering involved? Meaning that the FreeBSD install is
> aimed at a disk with a higher SCSI ID than the existing T64/VMS/whatever
> disk?
> 
> Does it matter if it is a floppy boot or a CD boot?
> 
> I cannot reproduce it here when aiming the new FreeBSD install at a
> disk with ID0, so the 2 other disks with T64 and FreeBSD respectively are
> obviously higher numbered ones.
> 
> Long shot..
> 
> W/
> 
> > At least for myself and several others who had this problem: 
> > 
> > you will never get to the install setup up if your system already has a
> > BSD (Tru64/NetBSD/Linux (using BSD disk label)  and from Matt's example, a
> > FreeBSD disk with the /sbin/init clobbered) or OpenVMS system disk.
> > FreeBSD will load the kernel, load the install MFS but then will fail to
> > find the MFS init routine -- I guess it will try to look for it on the
> > BSD/VMS disk and will fail to find it. 
> > 
> > On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Seems like it would be an easy thing to try to reproduce:  just put a
> > > > > couple of disks on the system and install Tru64/NetBSD/Linux/OpenVMS on
> > > > > one of them and then try to install FreeBSD on the other disk...
> > > > 
> > > > You don't even have to do that. Just take a previous FreeBSD installation and
> > > > move /sbin/init aside and create a zero length /sbin/init.
> > > 
> > > I'm still not sure I understand how that should have any effect.
> > > You're doing an install here, right?  And the install is going to
> > > newfs the root filesystem and repopulate it with distribution bits,
> > > right?
> > > 
> > > If you're somehow electing to preserve the existing root partition
> > > and/or not extract, at a minimum, bindist then this isn't an
> > > installation at all, this is some sort of "you must know what you're
> > > doing well enough not to shoot your feet off" quasi-upgrade operation.
> > > Please clarify.  Thanks.
> > > 
> > > - Jordan
> 
> -- 
> Wilko Bulte  	 			http://www.freebsd.org  
> wilko@freebsd.org			http://www.nlfug.nl
> 



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