Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 00:01:30 -0400 From: Walter Brameld <brameld@twave.net> To: David Murphy <drjolt@redbrick.dcu.ie>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world failed Message-ID: <00040400022200.20912@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain> In-Reply-To: <20000404001130.A83840@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10004031529120.36725-100000@home.offwhite.net> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0004031348070.2849-100000@dt051n0b.san.rr.com> <20000404001130.A83840@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie>
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, in a never-ending search for enlightenment, David Murphy wrote: > Quoting <Pine.BSF.4.21.0004031348070.2849-100000@dt051n0b.san.rr.com> > by Doug Barton <Doug@gorean.org>: > > > As I said, the documentation project can always use fresh > > blood. I suggest you subscribe to doc@freebsd.org so you can get an > > idea of what's happening currently. Or, you can just use this whole > > pointless exercise to promote your web site. Either is fine with me, > > as long as you spend more time making constructive contributions > > instead of sending pointless e-mails to the list. > > I've been on the receiving end of a previous iteration of this > flamewar, and I don't personally see that your position is any more > constructive. > > At the end of the day, if someone wants to write documentation, they > will. If they don't, they won't. In your model, the person who needs > documentation is assigned the task of writing documentation. > > There seem to be two widely held opinions on this list, and I assume, > perhaps incorrectly, that they are held by the majority of FreeBSD > developers: > > 1) The responsibility for locating available documentation > rests with the user. > > 2) If the user finds the available documentation insufficient, > the responsibility for creating sufficient documentation rests with > the user. > > It seems to me that the difference between users and developers is > that developers generally find the above opinions reasonable, users > generally do not. > > There are, broadly speaking, two classes of users of any software > system: those who use the system, find problems with the system, and > fix those problems; and those who use the system, find problems with > the system, and report those problems. I think of the former group of > people as "developers", and I call the latter group of people "users". > > The bottom line seems to be that, while developers are greatly > desired, users are tolerated, to the extent that they don't get in the > way of development. > > This makes FreeBSD an excellent choice of system for developers. It > makes it a poor choice of system for users. > > This, in and of itself, is no problem if you are interested in > creating and using a system by developers, for developers. Good for > you, and much success. > > Just don't promote it to users. Are you saying that FreeBSD is just a toy for developers, and not meant to be actually USED by any one? -- Walter Brameld Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? BSD: Are you guys coming, or what? Walter: And what does THIS button do?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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