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Date:      Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:58:03 -0800 (PST)
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Vincent Poy <vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET>
Cc:        FreeBSD mobile Mailing List <freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org>, Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: Looking for a new laptop
Message-ID:  <XFMail.010326105803.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.31.0103260213480.10847-100000@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET>

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On 26-Mar-01 Vincent Poy wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Mike Smith wrote:
> 
>> > > > > >    1600x1200 display
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Aren't Dell's about the only laptops with such high res displays?
>> > > >
>> > > >        No, the display originally came from IBM.  Dell licensed it from
>> > > > IBM...
>> > >
>> > > No, the 1600x1200 panel is made by Toshiba.  You're thinking of the
>> > > 1400x1050 panel, which is not "licensed".  (The correct term is
>> > > "OEMed".)
>> >
>> >    Nope, I'm talking about the 15" 1600x1200 UXGA panel... That's
>> > made by IBM and not Toshiba and I even remember there was a article saying
>> > Dell licensed it from IBM and you're right the term should be OEMed...
>> > It's the panel used on both the IBM A21P and the Dell Inspiron 8000.
>>
>> Funny, then, that when you probe it, it identifies itself as being a
>> Toshiba panel (as opposed to the 1400x1040 display, which reports itself
>> as an IBM panel).
> 
>       I don't have either the A21P or the Dell i8000 so I can't tell but
> from people who actually have contacts with the engineering at both Dell
> and IBM through the ThinkPad mailing lists and even www.thinkpads.com, the
> 1600x1200 is UXGA and developed by IBM.  Toshiba may have licensed the
> techology and built panels as well.   I only have a IBM ThinkPad 770Z
> 13.7" 1280x1024 and this one is indeed IBM.  I remember several magazines
> such as MaximumPC and Cadence when they did reviews on the IBM ThinkPad
> A21P HXU/HSU models and the Dell Inspiron 8000, it did say the screen is
> 15" UltraXGA and is licensed to Dell from IBM...

This is from a 5000e which was the first 1600x1200 laptop, AFAIK:

(**) R128(0): Using flat panel for display
(II) R128(0): Panel size: 1600x1200
(II) R128(0): Panel ID: Toshiba LTM15C162
(II) R128(0): Panel Type: Color, Single, TFT
(II) R128(0): Panel Interface: LVDS
(II) R128(0): PLL parameters: rf=2700 rd=60 min=12500 max=25000; xclk=10500

Note that Dell had a 1600x1200 display before IBM did.  I've had this 5000e
since October. :)

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