Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:27:44 -0400 From: "Romulus" <romulus007@netzero.net> To: "Jason Sheets" <jsheets@shadonet.com>, "Jordan Hubbard" <jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Cc: <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>, <lplist@closedsrc.org> Subject: Let me CLEAR this CRAP up once and for all!! Message-ID: <010e01c10aef$994f0a00$c450149a@romulus> References: <Pine.BSF.4.33.0107120644100.71651-100000@q.closedsrc.org><00d001c10ae9$aa80a5a0$c450149a@romulus> <20010712084548V.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
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Gentlemen, Why are you bitching at me? I am a developer for a large bank who uses millions of dollars of software (Oracle 8i, 9i, 9iAS, HP-UX, Solaris, Delphi, SAP R/4, PeopleSoft, Visual Studio, Win2k, etc.) from these companies. All I'm telling them is that my colleagues are fed up with their favoritism in support for only Linux at the EXPENSE of the BSDs. Do you understand me or are your heads polluted with C pointer memory leaks? And please get off your high horse thinking I'm some BSD zealot or advocate a la Linux! Hardly! I use what's most appropriate when its required and stay away from that EMOTIONAL crap. Perhaps you'll understand my perspective by reading a follow up to my original email: **** <<---BEGIN OF INCLUDED MESSAGE--->> Rahul, Answer this one question! Does the BSDs get the same opportunities anointed to Linux? The answer is a resounding, "No!!!" Did I use the "F" word or did I change the spelling to be more respectful? The problem with you guys is that you have no clue how to get people's attention and REALLY MAKE THEM THINK LONG AND HARD at some of their inequitable business practices. I'm not only a developer, but I also write, and am astute in the fine art of MARKETING. All I hope is for these companies to open their eyes and give the BSDs a chance to run their products natively -- nothing more, nothing less. Is this so bad, Rahul? And for the record, I'm a developer who works for one of the largest banks in the world (34,000 employees) and am sick of these vendors pandering only to Linux even though experts agree that the BSDs are a better OVERALL O/S. By the way, you write and act like a typical geek when you criticize my email client and Windows 2000 - Advanced Server O/S. After all, I still have to put food on the table and pay for my Audi TT. Right? So it should not be too hard for you to understand that I'm paid to create Delphi/PL-SQL/Java/ASP code on WINDOZE while I'm at the bank! Got it? Drivel? I think not! Sometimes the TRUTH HURTS, and it requires an OUTSIDER like me to ruffle some feathers NOW so that the FUTURE is a little brighter. Believe it or not, I've had some very positive comments from some vendors so far as they can appreciate the point of view of a developer who WORKS FOR A 200 BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY and has INFLUENCE on what's PURCHASED (RDBMSs, development tools, etc.). Got it? Remember, Rahul, MONEY TALKS AND BULLSHIT WALKS! These companies only know about revenues. I only reminded them that they could make a lot more if they also shipped their products natively on the BSDs. If you can't comprehend what I'm saying, then you are as STUPID as an investor who paid $270 for a share of Red Hat stock. Did you, by the way? Finally, please stay off my back! And no, I am not even near to the point of being a BSD advocate or zealot. Hey, I have a life and see the BSDs simply as a tool! I'd rather be chasing skirts at a night club, playing basketball or pumping iron in the gym FOR FUN, so don't let your head get too FAT because I'm far from being a geek! Are you, or do you have a life? Romulus. ****************** IT Consultant (eCommerce/Application Development) (ASP, Java, J2EE, PHP, IIS-5, Win2K, Python, VB SQL Server-2000, PL/SQL, FreeBSD, Linux, Delphi, C++) ****************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Hubbard" <jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Your reply! << Please get this ranting off the freebsd-doc list. It has no place here and if you want to engage in your own peculiar brand of guerilla marketing (which frankly looks more like the tail end of a cocaine binge to me) then you're free to do it ELSEWHERE. Thank you. - Jordan >> ============================= ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Sheets To: romulus007@netzero.net Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 11:21 AM Subject: Re: Please have some phucking RESPECT for the BSDs!!! << Do you think this email is actually going to do any good? All it is going to do is degrade these companhies opinions of the users of the BSD operating systems. By cursing, swearing at them and insulting their intelligence you are decreasing their desire to do anything for the open source bsd family. This may be acceptable behavior in the Linux world, we do not like it and we do not want to be attached to it. The BSD community in general is much more mature than this and I am resentful that you felt it was needed to do this. You could have written an informative, polite and professional letter just as easily and you would get a much better response. Beside the lack of professional wording the spelling in this document leaves much to be desired and does not represent the community. Please do not speak for a community which you know nothing about again. Thanks, Jason >> ==================================== NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message
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