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Date:      Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:02:33 +0000
From:      Alexander Best <arundel@freebsd.org>
To:        ticso@cicely.de
Cc:        FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: New Boot-Loader
Message-ID:  <20110329210233.GA18657@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20110329190057.GG34921@cicely7.cicely.de>
References:  <16FA7C02-86B0-46E6-A923-BC61357478FA@vicor.com> <1BC34FC3-7526-4DAA-964A-DDFD465DB830@bsdimp.com> <20110328110807.GA44745@freebsd.org> <4D90785C.1010802@freebsd.org> <AC6674AB7BC78549BB231821ABF7A9AEB52F4A55A3@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> <20110329190057.GG34921@cicely7.cicely.de>

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On Tue Mar 29 11, Bernd Walter wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 01:50:20PM -0400, Andrew Duane wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Andriy Gapon
> > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 8:00 AM
> > To: Alexander Best
> > Cc: FreeBSD Hackers
> > Subject: Re: New Boot-Loader
> > 
> > Please note that graphical loaders are not very serial console friendly ;-)
> > 
> > -- 
> > Andriy Gapon
> > 
> > 
> > Amen, and we have a whole lot of platforms that are only serial consoles (and 9600 baud at that).
> > Also, I like the letters instead of numbers for boot options, for those of us that have known for years that "s" is single user mode, "v" is verbose, etc....
> 
> This can hardly be an argument, because on serial consoles even
> the current full-screen implementation isn't friendly at all.
> One of the first things I always do is to disable beastie-start.
> As long as it is still based on ficl and can be disabled to get
> the traditional linemode I don't see a problem.

actually it's quite easy. there are two kind of people:

1) the ones that like it plain and simple and
2) the ones that fancy eye candy

lets have a boot loader for 1) which supports serial consoles and firewire
stuff and verbose booting and all that stuff one for 2).

> 
> -- 
> B.Walter <bernd@bwct.de> http://www.bwct.de
> Modbus/TCP Ethernet I/O Baugruppen, ARM basierte FreeBSD Rechner uvm.

-- 
a13x



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