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Date:      Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:10:03 +0200
From:      Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
To:        Kip Macy <kmacy@fsmware.com>
Cc:        Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD mail list etiquette
Message-ID:  <20031025201003.GC18072@freebie.xs4all.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20031025124518.F41344@demos.bsdclusters.com>
References:  <200310230143.32244.wes@softweyr.com> <20031025175948.GF683@funkthat.com> <20031025194135.GA790@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20031025124518.F41344@demos.bsdclusters.com>

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On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 12:55:26PM -0700, Kip Macy wrote:
> > There is also a problem in that the dirty work, even if done in a
> > way that demonstrates that the person has skills, is not always
> > recognised as important. The recognition has to come from within
> > that part of the developer community that has commit bits, because
> > you need someone with a commit bit to actually commit the stuff. If
> > noone with a commit bit recorgnises the dirty work as important,
> > it's not going to be committed and the person who has done the dirty
> > work is not recognised as someone who is worthy of a commit bit
> > because none of his work has been committed.
> >
> 
> I think this perfectly underscores, if not restates, Terry's point. He
> doesn't believe sufficient value is placed on the "dirty work". The
> following will sound as if it were intended to be ironic, but it isn't.
> Those working in the DragonFly tree, all appreciate Hiten's hard work as a
> "bottle-washer". We've benefited from the fact that members of the FreeBSD
> community, through racist remarks and endless flames, and a key member of
> core, through the indefinite postponement of a commit-bit, have alienated

And that is certifiable BS.. I suggest you talk to Hiten first before
you further spread fud like this....

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