Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 09:37:41 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey <chuckr@mat.net> To: John Hay <jhay@mikom.csir.co.za> Cc: Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPv6 in -current Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811010922160.306-100000@picnic.mat.net> In-Reply-To: <199811010922.LAA05107@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za>
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On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, John Hay wrote: > > > > >> > * Full IPv6 implementation in-kernel and libc! > > >> * Complete single-copy TCP/IP implementation > > > > > And even better if we could list both. :-) I think the needs of the > > > FreeBSD group is diverse enough that this isn't unreasonable. > > > > The needs are one thing; the capabilities quite another. OK, is this all true then? 1) We all want IPv6 added to the kernel. 2) There are two good contenders for the role of provider for this code, and they've both given quite a bit of work. They both could and would have their own committer do the work. 3) One reason for the delay, then, is a reasonable unwillingness to choose between 2 good possibilities (and possibly insult the losing team of developers, who clearly don't deserve any kind of insult). Would it be a reasonable thing to ask, that there be held an electronic debate? It need not be broadcast realtime ... the idea being that each team of developers be given the clearest possible chance to put forward their ideas in a sort of a debate-type encounter. This could be done via email to a 3rd party, a moderator, who would accumulate the results. If it was done via email, then (although it would be slower) it would not turn on momentary mistakes in phrasing so much as ability to present themselves; such a dialog could take up to a week or more to actually accumulate some presentable weight. At the end of some prearranged time, or on agreement (earlier) of both participants that they've given their best shots, the results could be made public. A decision could be made by a prequalified user base, either everyone who registers (register for voting? what an idea) or maybe committers. This would serve to give the ideas their best airing, allow the developers to present their cases in the lowest possible pressure consistent with public disclosure, and probably give the loser at least the feeling that they'd certainly been listened to, so their would be less likelihood of injured feelings. And, FreeBSD would most likely to get the best IPv6 implementation from it. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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