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Date:      Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:43:27 -0500
From:      "David W. Chapman Jr." <dwcjr@inethouston.net>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Disk I/O problems with -current.
Message-ID:  <20010821164326.C58026@leviathan.inethouston.net>
In-Reply-To: <20010821125435.G17739@xor.obsecurity.org>
References:  <20010820115207.B1696@tao.org.uk> <20010821125435.G17739@xor.obsecurity.org>

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On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 12:54:35PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 11:52:07AM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote:
> > I'm having strange problems with -current on a laptop with 64mb of
> > memory.  Periodically "things go strange" [tm].
> > 
> > Because of the lack of memory I'm using a fair amount of swap.
> > 
> > Everything runs smoothly up until a point, which seems to depend upon
> > not running too many large processes for too long.  Then the file system
> > grinds to a halt for seconds at a time.  Some processes run, and others
> > just hang.
> 
> Yes, I see almost exactly the same thing (except that I haven't
> noticed any processes which stay running during the freeze -- things
> like keyboard and mouse activity in X or the console always freeze).
> Mine could well be swap related too, though I have 128MB of memory.
> 
> I really think developers should be made to run -current on an old,
> slow, crippled machines so they notice this kind of thing which would
> be lost in the noise on their fast machines :-)
> 

Hrm, I'm even seeing this on my thunderbird 1100 with 256mb ram.  
Sometimes I even get a Bus I/O error when I try to do too much when 
this happens.  I have all kernel debugging options turned off, but I 
can turn them on if this is something you can debug with gdb.



-- 
David W. Chapman Jr.
dwcjr@inethouston.net	Raintree Network Services, Inc. <www.inethouston.net>
dwcjr@freebsd.org	FreeBSD Committer <www.FreeBSD.org>

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