Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:19:19 -0500 From: Jon Radel <jon@radel.com> To: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: partly offtopic, but need feed back now. Message-ID: <4B4C0657.3010806@radel.com> In-Reply-To: <20100112043849.GA96088@thought.org> References: <20100112043849.GA96088@thought.org>
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This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090304060304060208070804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary Kline wrote: > according to him, on each one copper circuit, there were two unused wires that > could be used for a second phone number. so that afternoon I had a dialup line > and the house had a voice line. Or more.... Each POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) line takes one copper pair. The wiring inside your house probably has two pairs, which can either be used for 2 lines or for 1 line plus power to light the dial of your Princess phone. If your wiring is of the right vintage you might even have the old transformer for providing the power dangling somewhere. The wiring up to your house probably has some even number of pairs. I think I have a 4-pair and a 6-pair at this point, though most are no longer used (I'm down to a single POTS and a single T1, way down from my high point). > > if I'm not mistaken, there are some Qwest people amongst this group. I would > like to know if what the telephone installer told me 14 years ago was true, and > also, if it is likely unchanged. > Well, pretty much unchanged other than that all the local exchange carriers that actually run copper wire to houses are eager to get out of that business to one extent or another. I don't follow this closely, but I think AT&T is the only one to have actually gone public with a request to the FCC to set a date when they can drop POTS lines forever. > > at any rate, within four hours, the cable company will take ownership of the > second voice line. I think it is just one physical circuit split in two by a > clever tech. Hmmmm....if you're doing the standard thing, and porting your phone number to the cable company, they'll have to put some equipment of their own on or in your house. They don't really take ownership of the "line", just the number. See if you can get the tech to make real sure that your two inside pairs are well isolated so maybe you can get rid of the problem of ring voltage leaking from one to the other. He'll probably just detach one of your inside pairs from Qwest and hook it up to his box, assuming he doesn't just wave his hands and tell you plug your phone in "here" and go away. -- --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms090304060304060208070804 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJMTCC AvMwggJcoAMCAQICEB1eDeVYxhAO39zOEnHiAbwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA5MDIyNTA0MTMyNloX DTEwMDIyNTA0MTMyNlowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9tYXMx GTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j b20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDeT7qtj+euqWr2wXM7OnwrXJe9 Jlc0CGaM69AcTWOFakRY7MUXrqcmF5WjrqrMoagfGjS362eb6787x313ZdLoGuQPh/o2Mqp4 BbSgcnGZRj82SxkUmSN6+2q5ZOOYA6JmfvJwmBuRQ8sHki4GnoSwbIc11a70/z4at5qRi8bb /RtmJYewnpwXErfuuq0hhVSsYKFPXELzSahlpyC+lUfIdgvLJGxc7eU5QuvtYmuohNjn4k9C SJinvfjFbkvgbIgtvZxxmcE74NsKTeW2bEwgoCjZlcAD/QMgLE9KGSVn4/LzC/OZwkPKcWKO CPTNIZK1P+HxaIW4BvvYtjLu2Qx5AgMBAAGjKjAoMBgGA1UdEQQRMA+BDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j b20wDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQBT+qFXV8sexrNOJuK8rhVpnCNF iFslD9Kelhon5Tt1tlTsw+B9F9B8ys9tfV559tzVqE+ULcqnjX2rsaJCwFmn6gyucCN0yGML h1O4ddsNQmoTOILyBCv/rkfO4tbXJM3si2JDNPZnL/0Rf3FpDTc3U3SnAdqE1a/8PGBTTmay VDCCAvMwggJcoAMCAQICEB1eDeVYxhAO39zOEnHiAbwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkG A1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNV BAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA5MDIyNTA0MTMy NloXDTEwMDIyNTA0MTMyNlowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9t YXMxGTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRl bC5jb20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDeT7qtj+euqWr2wXM7Onwr XJe9Jlc0CGaM69AcTWOFakRY7MUXrqcmF5WjrqrMoagfGjS362eb6787x313ZdLoGuQPh/o2 Mqp4BbSgcnGZRj82SxkUmSN6+2q5ZOOYA6JmfvJwmBuRQ8sHki4GnoSwbIc11a70/z4at5qR i8bb/RtmJYewnpwXErfuuq0hhVSsYKFPXELzSahlpyC+lUfIdgvLJGxc7eU5QuvtYmuohNjn 4k9CSJinvfjFbkvgbIgtvZxxmcE74NsKTeW2bEwgoCjZlcAD/QMgLE9KGSVn4/LzC/OZwkPK cWKOCPTNIZK1P+HxaIW4BvvYtjLu2Qx5AgMBAAGjKjAoMBgGA1UdEQQRMA+BDWpvbkByYWRl bC5jb20wDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQBT+qFXV8sexrNOJuK8rhVp nCNFiFslD9Kelhon5Tt1tlTsw+B9F9B8ys9tfV559tzVqE+ULcqnjX2rsaJCwFmn6gyucCN0 yGMLh1O4ddsNQmoTOILyBCv/rkfO4tbXJM3si2JDNPZnL/0Rf3FpDTc3U3SnAdqE1a/8PGBT TmayVDCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUw EwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhh d3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNp b24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJ ARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMzA3MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3 MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAo UHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBD QTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV+065yplaHmjAdQRwnd/p/6Me 7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNaLIkVcI7dyfArhVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+RNiQq E88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUqVIUPSAR/p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEA AaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1UdHwQ8MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9j cmwudGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWlsQ0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIB BjApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxhYmVsMi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcN AQEFBQADgYEASIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/TCG4+DYfqi2fNi/A9BxQIJNw PP2t4WFiw9k6GX6EsZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amcOY6MIE9lX5Xa9/eH1sYITq72 6jTlEBpbNU1341YheILcIRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggNkMIIDYAIBATB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYT AlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNU aGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQHV4N5VjGEA7f3M4SceIBvDAJ BgUrDgMCGgUAoIIBwzAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEP Fw0xMDAxMTIwNTE5MTlaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBSlBiq4s0a8dWoqbep6/c3cut6hgzBS BgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoGCCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgIAgDANBggqhkiG9w0D AgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBKDCBhQYJKwYBBAGCNxAEMXgwdjBiMQswCQYD VQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UE AxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEB1eDeVYxhAO39zOEnHi AbwwgYcGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAILMXigdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3Rl IENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVt YWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEB1eDeVYxhAO39zOEnHiAbwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEggEAlaQE /uFx2Dx/h1wJZidghSv9NJ4L7f8Ax6wrzlLDvADw9uisiZfEp662ZUsgbzWTJ8jgCsOgovo9 lELNtw+1YTML8e9ijKHn6EcnOguvbC4Es6FeakQrUios0c5D/KSwUyvCWJihcfNUdVHAZXpD G9c7bh9j2j0evNkKTgrdt5lDAAauDzAHIgkf6fncFieeKYE3MTQm7S3Uqa1fJITf3zNd12F1 Y5iDOEcQhGUR9YoBt3zixCzp689BFC7C6e8YwV6nqDklheIxYfotRbvR4C8YQQOodYKG0Jut BRbMCRiUrM50ZANYOmDjHPJ0Mjk4zN5yXeHxsmJjJaTT5ZzxfwAAAAAAAA== --------------ms090304060304060208070804--
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