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Date:      Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:40:59 +0200
From:      Stefan Bethke <stefan@promo.de>
To:        John Fieber <jfieber@indiana.edu>
Cc:        Wolfram Schneider <wosch@apfel.de>, www@freebsd.org, jordan@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Select a server near you menu
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In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.970428145144.4808F-100000@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu>
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At 22:07 Uhr +0200 28.04.1997, John Fieber wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Stefan Bethke wrote:
>
>> At 19:17 Uhr +0200 28.04.1997, Stefan Bethke wrote:
>> So before I start moaning about the menu again, look at this example how
>> the home page could look:
>> http://www.freebsd.org/~stb/home/
>
>A refreshing new look!  Whee!
>
>Generally looks great, though I have not looked too carefully or
>with anything but Netscape.  Some comments.
>
>* Maybe I'm just out of touch with non-standard HTML, but what is
>  the origin of <SPACER>?
Sorry, this is a left-over. <IMG src="emtpy.gif" ...> is more portable;
<SPACER> is a Netscapism.

>
>* <NOBR> seems to be what &nbsp is supposed to be.  Does &nbsp
>  not work?
<NOBR>Foo bar</NOBR> makes the words in between not break. Yes, one can use
Foo&nbsp;bar also.

>* The banner graphic at the top is a wee bit too wide for the
>  for the default width of X11 Netscape (assuming default fonts).
Then topbar.gif is supposed to go out the right of the screen?

>* I think the "select your language" option may have some
>  usability problems in that it implies that language
>  selection and mirror selection are independent when,
>  in fact, they are not.  Also, having English missing is a
>  problem!
Well, I'm not too concerned where the server lives, as long as it gives me
information in a language I can understand. I thought it would be implied
that you are reading the English pages and that the language menu would
take you elsewhere. Maybe "Select another language:"?

And, why not have a part of the page that tells you where you are?
("Welcome to the main FreeBSD Web server." or "Willkommen auf dem deutschen
FreeBSD-Webserver.")
I think we should provide for localization in the build process whereever
it makes sense.

>
>> See also
>> http://www.freebsd.org/~stb/home/newsflash.html
>> how I would change the header on the other pages.
>
>See also http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber/bars.html
I would like to, but as of now there is no such doc...

>
>For the second level pages (and deeper) I think we need a smaller
>daemon.  I was thinking of integrating the one for the Quick
>Index on the home page right into the blue bar graphic.
That is a possibility.

>
>> These two pages are hand-crafted; if you feel it would be worthwile, I'll
>> start to produce .sgml files for it.
>
>The general rule is they must parse with the common denominator
>HTML 3.2 DTD.  We may stretch that a wee bit with the home page
>since the extensions you have used are pretty harmless.
I'm sure that is possible; I'll work on it tonight.

>
>Good work!
Thanks!

Stefan

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