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Date:      Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:26:14 +0100
From:      Christophe =?ISO-8859-1?B?UHLpdm90YXV4?= <c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Cc:        net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: More on UDLR
Message-ID:  <20020304132614.57588f06.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr>
In-Reply-To: <3C82D8C1.2DD2ADAE@elischer.org>
References:  <20020304000405.551fd8fa.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> <3C82D8C1.2DD2ADAE@elischer.org>

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On Sun, 03 Mar 2002 18:15:29 -0800
Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> wrote:

> Christophe Prevotaux wrote:
> > 
> > If someone is willing to reintegrate all of this
> > in FreeBSD Stable or Current in order to have
> > native UDLR support on FreeBSD.
> > 
> > http://www-sop.inria.fr/rodeo/personnel/eduros/
> > http://www.udcast.com/udlr/
> > http://www-sop.inria.fr/rodeo/personnel/eduros/index-dvb.html
> > 
> > I suggest interested people also look at things like
> > 
> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3077.txt
> > 
> > Unidirectional path support would be a very interesting thing
> > to have in order to devellop rural or remote areas internet access
> > and more....
> 
> 
> I only skimmed over the RFC but it looks like it would be almost trivial
> to impliment this in Netgraph, using exisiting nodes to separate the packets
> and deliver then to/from a special 3077 node.

That would be really cool , however I am not a programmer, but I still think
this is something that would be really usefull. 

UDLR has been implemented in VxWorks , Mentat TCP etc... 
all of these guys are using BSD but they are not contributing anything
back into BSD , I know this is their right to do so, but UDLR is something
that everyone could use. 

For example, you could use any system with a slow uplink (or no uplink)
bandwidth and a fast return channel in order to provide lightning fast
internet access in remote areas.

You could also deliver Newsgroups or source code or any other kind of data
to a large group of users. Imagine a FreeBSD source CVSup live multicast.
People would just have to plug in their satellite dish with a DVB revceiver
card (provided there are any drivers for FreeBSD) and then would start receiving
FreeBSD code source change etc....

Of course in many areas like USA this is useless because almost everyone has access
to broadband internet , but in other less fortunate areas of the world this would
likely be used very much. Not only this but also Mailing list and Newsgroups
this would save a lot of bandwidth :) Even Emails or binary patch could be delivered
this way, also security alerts :)


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