Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 09:27:15 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey <kamikaze@bsdforen.de> To: Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: File system issues Message-ID: <544CB063.3020002@bsdforen.de> In-Reply-To: <20141026170011.M74058@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <544BC863.2040607@bsdforen.de> <20141025183600.GG66862@home.opsec.eu> <50056B15-83F4-4524-995E-6486959C027C@orthanc.ca> <20141026170011.M74058@sola.nimnet.asn.au>
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On 26/10/2014 07:36, Ian Smith wrote: > On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:11:16 -0700, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > On Oct 25, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Kurt Jaeger <lists@opsec.eu> wrote: > > > > > I always disable journaling, because I had many failures with that > > > in the past: > > > > > > tunefs -j disable <partition> > > > > I turn it off because you cannot snapshot a journaled filesystem, > > which breaks live dumps. > > > > It would be helpful if there was a way in the installer to toggle the > > default setting for 'journaled' before carving out the filesystems. > > It's moderately annoying to have to go through the option settings > > for all the filesystems to turn this off. > > And if you do go back into the options settings for a filesystem, the > options you have changed, like turning off journaling, have been (or at > least, appear to have been) reset to defaults, so you can't just check > what you've already set, but have to start again. > > What I _really_ miss from sysinstall(8) is the ability to toggle the > newfs flag. What you need to do now if you wish to preserve an existing > filesystem - quite commonly /home - is very deliberately NOT select that > filesystem from those detected, finish the install then manually, later, > readd that fs to /etc/fstab AND remove the created symlink from /home to > /usr/home, recreate /home as a directory, AFTER moving created dotfiles > if you forgot to NOT create a non-root user during install. Relatively > new users wouldn't have the slightest clue about needing to do that. > > But then, the general expectation that new users will want a linux-style > single / directory - sure, fine for VM use - cruels the potential to use > dump and restore anyway. It's a bit sad that this is still outstanding. You can use dump from anywhere in the file system by way of nullfs mounts. -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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