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Date:      Fri, 12 Oct 2001 17:10:57 -0500 (EST)
From:      Doug Hass <dhass@imagestream.com>
To:        owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>, MurrayTaylor <taylorm@bytecraft.au.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        Alfred Shippen <ashippen@metromatics.com.au>
Subject:   Re: FYI
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.3.96.1011012170753.5271E-100000@ims1.imagestream.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1011012170439.5271C-100000@ims1.imagestream.com>

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I'm providing this to the people whose addresses appear in the original
messages.  My apologies if this gets cross-posted or sent multiple times
to the same place.  As I mention below, the WANic 400 series cards and all
of the RISCom/N2 series cards are now End Of Life, and only available in
special quantity builds.

If anyone reading this message needs further information, please contact
me directly and I can go into further depth about the EOL cards mentioned
below and their replacements in the SBS line.

Regards,

Doug

-----

Doug Hass
ImageStream Internet Solutions
dhass@imagestream.com
http://www.imagestream.com
Office: 1-219-935-8484
Fax: 1-219-935-8488


On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Doug Hass wrote:

> The WANic 400 series is definitely EOL.  The cards are available in
> quantities of 100+ only by special order.  The RISCom/N2 series cards are
> also EOL. 
> 
> This is a recent decision--it went into effect as of September 21st.
> Closeout quantities have already been sold to other companies, so the
> cards are only available by special order.
> 
> The WANic 521/522 have replaced these cards, and should be used instead.
> There are no drivers for FreeBSD, however.
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Alfred Shippen wrote:
> 
> > This guy is local to you and is under the misapprehension that the Risc/400
> > series is not a discontinued item. I dont know if you want to follow them up
> > or not. My customer (Bytecraft) is fine by this and has passed on the
> > comments to me.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
> > > To: "MurrayTaylor" <taylorm@bytecraft.au.com>;
> > > <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>; <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 3:07 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Imagestream WanIC-520 interface cards
> > >
> > >
> > > > The WANic 5xx's use an incompatible chipset and the driver will not
> > > > work with them.
> > > >
> > > > I thnk your supplier is feeding you a line of bullshit.  SBS
> > > Communications
> > > > has posted no plans whatsover to discontinue or change the WANic line.
> > > > They are fully aware that the 405's have open source drivers and are
> > > > furthermore used in embedded systems too.
> > > >
> > > > The WANic 5xx series of cards sell for more money and so naturally your
> > > > supplier is most interested in maximizing his margin and would prefer to
> > > > push you into a more expensive card.
> > > >
> > > > With the increase in CPU power all of the go-fast hardware on the
> > > higher-level
> > > > cards is less important.
> > > >
> > > > Consider that the Hitachi controller chip used on the WANic 405 is the
> > > > SAME chip that Cisco uses in it's 25xx series of routers, and the Cisco
> > > > 2501 is the most used router in the world and has the most installed
> > > > units.
> > > >
> > > > SBS Communications is STILL selling the RISCom series of cards which is
> > > > the predecessor to the WANic, uses the same controller, these are ISA
> > > cards
> > > > that have a design that's over 10 years old.
> > > >
> > > > You tell your supplier that since the 405 is being "phased out" that he
> > > > should sell you a bunch of them at closeout prices.
> > > >
> > > > Ted Mittelstaedt
> > > tedm@toybox.placo.com
> > > > Author of:                           The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's
> > > Guide
> > > > Book website:
> > > http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of MurrayTaylor
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 4:49 PM
> > > > >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > > >Subject: Imagestream WanIC-520 interface cards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >As the WanIC-405 is being phased out (according to my supplier
> > > > >down under here in OZ), has any development / testing been done on the
> > > > >apparent replacement, the WanIC-521 (522, 524 ... ) range
> > > > >
> > > > >I am especially interested in its compatibility with its predecessor
> > > > >which I am using very successfully for frame relay under Netgraph.
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm trying to get compatability info from the supplier here,
> > > > >but we are a long way down the food chain ;-(
> > > > >
> > > > >Tia
> > > > >
> > > > >Murray Taylor
> > > > >Bytecraft Systems Pty Ltd
> > > > >murraytaylor@bytecraftsystems.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > 
> 
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