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Date:      Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:22:34 +0200
From:      danger@rulez.sk
To:        Christian Brueffer <brueffer@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, Daniel Gerzo <danger@FreeBSD.org>, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/share/examples/mdoc example.4
Message-ID:  <20060927102234.dsupin91usswg4s0@mail.rulez.sk>
In-Reply-To: <20060926202339.GA2039@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE>
References:  <200609261959.k8QJxqkh068350@repoman.freebsd.org> <20060926202339.GA2039@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE>

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Quoting Christian Brueffer <brueffer@FreeBSD.org>:

> On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 07:59:52PM +0000, Daniel Gerzo wrote:
>> danger      2006-09-26 19:59:52 UTC
>>
>>   FreeBSD src repository (doc committer)
>>
>>   Modified files:
>>     share/examples/mdoc  example.4
>>   Log:
>>   Remove second person from the sentece and rephrase a bit.
>>
>>   Approved by: trhodes (mentor), keramida (mentor)
>>
>>   Revision  Changes    Path
>>   1.26      +6 -8      src/share/examples/mdoc/example.4
>
> I don't agree to these changes, see below for details (also I don't see wh=
ere
> exactly you removed second person usage, it's still being used in the new
> version).

We want to aviod to use words like "you", "your" and so on. I have =20
talked about it with Ruslan and my mentors.

>> | -To compile the
>> | -.Ns Nm
>> | -driver into the kernel,
>> | -place the following lines in the
>> | -kernel configuration file:
>> | +To enable support for
>> | +.Ns Nm ,
>> | +place the following lines in the kernel configuration file:
>
> The formulation used before was much more accurate WRT the distinction
> we make between compiling something into the kernel and loading it as a
> module.  If we load something as a module we also "enable support for
> it".

I think it's certainly clear to users that they can either enable =20
support for something in kernel _or_ load it as a module which would =20
bring that support without need of kernel recompilation.

>
>> |  .Bd -ragged -offset indent
>> |  .Cd "device example"
>> |  .Cd "options EXAMPLE_DEBUG"
>> | @@ -45,9 +43,9 @@ kernel configuration file:
>> |  .Pp
>> |  Alternatively, to load the
>> |  .Ns Nm
>> | -driver as a
>> | -module at boot time, place the following line in
>> | -.Xr loader.conf 5 :
>> | +as a module at boot time, add the following line into the
>> | +.Xr loader.conf 5
>> | +file:
>> |  .Bd -literal -offset indent
>> |  example_load=3D"YES"
>> |  .Ed
>>
>
> Removing "driver" here is wrong.  "...to load the .Nm..." what, the .Nm
> driver?  The .Nm utility?  It's just incorrect to rely on context here
> and it makes the sentence sound really awkward.

Yes, I know about this issue as it was pointed by Ruslan a few hours =20
after I have committed it (note, that I had an approval from my =20
mentors). Tom is native and he told that while it does not really =20
sounds correct, it is correct English, but depends on the context as =20
you have said. I have mailed my mentors and Ruslan with re-worded =20
sentence that should fix that.

>
> IMHO the SYNOPSIS section in section 4 manpages is kind of a standard
> now, as it's being used in the majority of section 4 manpages.
> Changes to it should not be made without _good_ reason and with a sweep
> through all manpages that use it.  Among other things, the purpose of
> this section is to achieve consistency across section 4 manpages.
>

It is standard that should be fixed :-) and I'm about to do that; I =20
wanted to commit the change to the example.4 first and after that =20
start with changes to the affected section 4 manual pages.

But if there are more people that think that this change is wrong, I'm =20
not going to argue about that or being upset or something, I will =20
revert the change and go ahead and start working on something else.

> - Christian

--=20
Best regards,
Daniel



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