Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 17:48:41 -0700 From: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@freebsd.org> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> Cc: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" <karl@mcs.com>, grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey), hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-current@freebsd.org Subject: PONY UP! (was: The -stable problem: my view) Message-ID: <1114.834194921@critter.tfs.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 07 Jun 1996 16:27:55 PDT." <16972.834190075@time.cdrom.com>
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In message <16972.834190075@time.cdrom.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > >Well, then I think it's time for you ISPs to start donating more >resources to us. I would like to back this argument a little bit too. Quite frankly, I'm proud as hell when you people brag about what you're doing with FreeBSD. I'm proud as hell when I wear my FreeBSD T-shirt. I have bought more hardware of more weird sorts than anybody would think they would ever need, and certainly more than I'd ever buy if I didn't care about the quality of installation tools and methods for FreeBSD and other such stuff. I could have started an ISP instead, I could have made money instead. I know I have spent time to the tune of $100K on FreeBSD instead of doing paid work. So far I have no problem with that either because, most of it was fun, and most of the rest of it were just plainly needed to get FreeBSD over a hurdle. What I'm more than a little bit disappointed with, is the number of quite obvious commercial entities with their relative amounts of success and dependencies on FreeBSD that have sent an email to -core saying, "Hi, we owe you people something, what can we do for you in return ?" If somebody were to be paid for doing FreeBSD work part-time, with the understanding that "it may not be fun, that's why we pay you!" we could get a lot of menial tasks done that simply don't get done because they're not any fun to do in your sparetime. Things like regression testing, documentation, upgrade procedures... Another alternative is to get sufficient money that one or more of the really good FreeBSD people could actually sustain life doing nothing but FreeBSD. Both of these things would help a lot, and it goes without saying that any donation on that kind of scale would result in a higher level of awareness for the donors problems and wishes. But even if you cannot afford that kind of donations, you can still donate to us. The information for donating money is on our web-pages. How about donating $25 every time you install or upgrade a machine with FreeBSD ? That would still be less than half the price of any other thing you could install, say, MS-DOS 6.22 or Windows 95... So, guys, if FreeBSD is so useful to you and your business, maybe you need to think about how you can be useful to the FreeBSD project. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so.
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