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Date:      Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:36:05 -0700
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Mike Heffner <mheffner@vt.edu>
Cc:        arch@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Importing lukemftpd
Message-ID:  <20010717103604.B79329@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.20010716212454.mheffner@novacoxmail.com>; from mheffner@novacoxmail.com on Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 09:24:54PM -0400
References:  <XFMail.20010716212454.mheffner@novacoxmail.com>

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On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 09:24:54PM -0400, Mike Heffner wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> I would like to import Luke Mewburn's ftpd from NetBSD as the ftpd for Fr=
eeBSD.
> David had originally brought up the idea of importing it back in December=
, but
> it appears that he hasn't had the time, or other issues have come up. How=
ever,
> I would like to bring up the discussion again as I think it's a needed
> improvement--NetBSD's ftpd is better maintained and has better standards
> compliance.

This has been discussed extensively over on -audit in the past.
Basically, I have concerns as security officer about replacing an ftpd
which has a good security track record with one which contains large
amounts of unaudited code, and has had several security problems.  The
FreeBSD ftpd is used on far too many installed systems out there to
risk introducing new root vulnerabilities, no matter how good the
lukemftpd code is or how small that risk.

There are also problems with missing features as you note.  The last
time this came up I offered the compromise solution of importing it
into FreeBSD to work on feature parity and to give auditors a known
base to work from, but it is not to become the default ftpd until I've
signed off on it.  We now have funding to perform in-depth auditing
work on FreeBSD, so I think this would be achieved in a reasonable
timeframe (probably by 5.0-RELEASE).

Kris

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