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Date:      Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:11:41 -0800 (PST)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Vlad Galu <dudu@diaspar.rdsnet.ro>
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Dummy Network Interface
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0401151109180.26778-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <20040115053524.2c6e8db2.dudu@diaspar.rdsnet.ro>

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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Vlad Galu wrote:

> Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org> writes:
> 
> |
> |On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 ms419@freezone.co.uk wrote:
> |
> |> How does one create a dummy network interface in FreeBSD? 
> |
> |Dummy in what sense?  An interface where the packets are simply
> |dropped? if_tap and if_tun both provide pseudo-device in /dev that a
> |userspace process can attach to in order to emulate a network interface
> |(used by VMWare, ppp, various tunneling bits, ...)  In the absense of a
> |process sitting on the device, they simply drop the packets.  Although
> |they may get garbage-collected if unused on -CURRENT...  You can also
> |use netgraph to bring pseudo-interfaces, perhaps without anywhere for
> |packets to go. 
> |
> |And, I suppose, create in what sense?  Are you looking at this from a
> |developer perspective, or you just need one from a user perspective. 
> |If writing a device driver (and hence needing a starting point), if_tap
> |and if_tun are fairly decent models for a pseudo-interface.
> 
> 	I think he could use the discard interface smoothly. On Linux (from
> which the dummy interface notion is taken from) it is simply used for
> testing purposes, as in routing, or perhaps socket programming. I
> personally have used it for a while, but then I used interface aliasing,
> which became a habit.

ng_iface <-> ng_hole

would yield a 'black hole' interface  if that is what is being looked
for..
ng_iface is similar to both tun and tap exceot that it can route the
packets to arbitrary netgraph moudles or to any subsystem to which
netgraph has a supported interface. (e.g. userland or a tty)

> 
> |
> |Robert N M Watson             FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects
> |robert@fledge.watson.org      Senior Research Scientist, McAfee
> |Research
> |
> |
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