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Date:      Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:58:22 +1000
From:      "Murray Taylor" <MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au>
To:        "Giorgos Keramidas" <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>, "Robert Bonomi" <bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: text editor
Message-ID:  <E194A4DE220BBE4FAF3AB7C4E7EDA086C42773@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal>
In-Reply-To: <87zkzgx8rd.fsf@kobe.laptop>

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Hmmm.... I have successfully run vi from a partition on=20
a 32M flash card in 32M of RAM

The RAM also had memory disks for /var and /tmp.

The entire system was dynamically linked so a lot of=20
space was saved by that build technique

The box was an embedded system running SNMP, gsmsmd and a few
oter thing as a real time network monitor for the Melbourne 2006
Commonwealth Games and the Asian Games a year or so later in Doha, Qatar


the box (still) runs on FreeBSD 4  and was built this way
=20 https://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html=20

the author did also make similar builds available for FreeBSD 5 and 6


NOTE all these have been replaced by nanobsd, but the techniques are
still useful, especially if you are pushed for space.


Murray Taylor
Bytecraft Systems
Special Projects Engineer

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Giorgos
Keramidas
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 3:48 AM
To: Robert Bonomi
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: text editor

On Mon, 31 May 2010 11:36:53 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi
<bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com> wrote:
>Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
>> Vim is much smaller than Emacs but it still a few MB's here:
>>
>>   keramida@kobe:/usr/ports/packages/All$ ls -ld vim*
>>   -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  - 5757731  1 =3DCE=3D91=3DCF=3D80=3DCF=3D=
81 17:11
vim-lite-7.2.344.tbz
>
> Yeah, but EMACS is (currently) reputed to stand for <E>ighty
> <M>egabytes <A>nd <C>onstantly <S>wapping!  *GRIN*

That's an old joke, but it's not particularly good anymore.

The smallest laptop-size 2.5" SATA disk I have at home can hold
more than 80 GB of data.  The size of a program is now a limiting
factor only if you are working with embedded applications.

Normal, every-day computers have enough disk space to hold tens
of thousands of full Emacs installations even without any sort of
compression :-)
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