Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:35:40 -0400 From: Temptation <temp@temptation.interlog.com> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Cc: FreeBSD-hackers@FreeBSD.Org Subject: Re: NCR810 problem? Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9506051849.A21718-0100000@temptation.interlog.com> In-Reply-To: <199506052153.OAA24419@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
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On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > > > > I too, am seeing the 1 boot out of 3 freaks out problem with the exact > > > > > same symptoms as the above couple of messages. This box (Asus SP3G, > > > > > 486dx2/66, onboard NCR SCSI driving Quantum Empire 2100S and a HP 35480 > > > > > DAT drive) used to run 1.1.5.1 perfectly - never a problem on reboot. > > > > > Now (2.0.5ish) freaks one out of three times with the NCR probing errors > > > > > and then the river of errors. Can fix it by hitting reset 9 times out of 10. > > > > > > > > > Same motherboard, Asus (whatever) 486-66, NCR PCI, 2940, smc pci, > > > > Seagate, Dat (on or off doesn't matter) > > > > > > > > reboots sometimes, Most of the not. Unmount correctly, but the > > > > screen goes black, and sits there, Install program, Umounts, > > > > but sits there. > > > > but then out of the blue it'll reboot correctly. > > > > Also *NO* disk problems. Nor any problems with anything else, > > > > NT/WIN95/WARP/LINUX/SCO/UNIXWARE/DOS. > > > > Don't know if thats good news for me or you, I personally hate this > > motherboard, its one of the worse boards I've ever boughten. > > The reason is because I bought one for first ones, which never worked, > > that was Rev1.0 and Rev1.1, then they gave me this one, Which is > > rev1.2Feb1994, hmm better not get in that story. The Pent Trinton Asus > > board is good tho. and works. > > I will say it was very true that the Rev 1.0 and Rev 1.1 of this board > had serious problems (there where not ASUS's problem, it was buggy > Saturn I and II chip sets from Intel, they didn't work right until > Rev 1.2 of the board which uses the Rev 4 Saturn II chipset). There > is still the problem that you *must* run this board with the external > cache in write back mode if you use the NCR controller (or any other > bus master device for that matter). Yes that was one problem :) the other problem is them not working with Adaptec 2940 cards, only Rev1.2 worked and ONLY at IRQ 14, you couldn't change it, Also the 2940 would only work in one slot , Slot 3, tho Slot 2 is also SUPPOSE to be bus-mastering, when you disable NCR, it doesn't work. Some more things, but it's been over a year. At that time I bought 40 of them. I only have a couple left, by they still have these same problems. > > The nice thing about this board is that it does memory interleaving > (that is why you have to install simms in pairs) so that the memory > performance on it is very good. (And with a DX4/100 can beat most > P5-60 machines, and even some P5-66 machines at make world!!). Yes this is true, actually with 486-66, I can come very close to a P-90, using 40ns SIMMS and Adaptec 2940, and 512k cache > > I don't use the standard install tools, but I have been shipping systems > on this board since March, which means that FreeBSD does run on it with > out problem. Sounds like you had the cache set to write back mode, which > is a known problem on this board (or at least known to me!!). I've been trying for over 1.year trying to get FreeBSD installed on it. And may not have been Free or the system, could have been me, not sure, but I would goto the part menu, create it, worked fine, when to label, setup / and /usr , swap , /dos , and goto write the part, it does, so I think, crash. lockup. Reset, no More parts., I tried alot of different drives, tried with just NCR, tried with just 2940, didn't matter. this New version 2.0.5, besides the minor bugs here and there, installed very easy. ( at first I spent 48 hours straight trying to get it installed ;) ) but it didn't crash on the part. or Label program. > > > Since I throw that cd in the garbage, I'm not going to try that those > > other versions again :) As for the supped thing, you need to be > > connected to the "NET" for that don't you? > > Yes. > > > my FreeBSD is connected only > > to my local network, and I have telnet or ftp to my linux server to get > > out anyway. Guess I could try taring the directory? > > Yes. It should be about 5MB tarred, 2.5MB as a .tgz or there abouts. > > > it's not as big as the .packages or distfiles is it? I've been ftping > > .packages for the last 25hours or so :) and it's still going :) > > Your pulling the ports/distfiles directory most likely, which is HUGE!!! > Don't pull the distfiles, let make do that for you as it builds stuff, > unless you plan on building it ALL :-). How else can get those files? my Freebsd doesn't have direct access to the net :) it must connect to my Linux server (as in telnet, login root, ftp out to the net) I already got /ports/distfiles, your right it is HUGE :) I'm getting /packages which seems bigger :) > > I'll do what I can to test it out tho. > > (if any of my responses sounded a bit sarcast, there was no intent, I > > thank you for your help, in helping solve MY problem) > > Your welcome! > > > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com > Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD >
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