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Date:      Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:17:14 +0000
From:      Darcy Buskermolen <darcy@ok-connect.com>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: fbsdboot.exe can't load elf kernels
Message-ID:  <3.0.32.20000112091713.015822a0@mail.ok-connect.com>

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At 05:07 PM 1/12/00 +0000, you wrote:
>On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 08:46:28AM -0800, Mike Smith wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 07:29:23PM -0800, R Joseph Wright wrote:
>> > > Which brings up the question that keeps nagging at me:  How possible is
>> > > it to create a pc bios that is geared towards BSD/linux?  This would
>> > > include its own lightweight repair shell.  Couldn't this solve a lot of
>> > > problems with pc hardware, to have a unix-oriented bios? 
>> > 
>> > About the only thing that I really miss, going from `real' unix to 
>> > pc unix is the ability to do _anything_ with a serial console.
>> > 
>> > A bios that can do it's thang over the serial port exists.  But it's
>> > not very common.
>> 
>> www.realweasel.com
>
>It's a very clever hack.  I admire them for it.   Doesn't stop it
>being an 'orrible hack.
>
>[ for those that haven't seen them, a board that looks to the BIOS like
>  a MGA adapter but can throw the data out of the serial port instead ]
>
>I still maintain that the /right/ solution is for the BIOS to have
>a ``while booting shovel data out COM1 and accept data from COM1 as if
>it were my keyboard'' option.  
>
>I've seen them on (I think) NCR boxes. 

Intel Server class machines also have that ability. Motherboards such as
the L440GX+ Mother board have this as an option in the BIOS.


>

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>Mike Bristow, Geek At Large	         ``Beware of Invisible Cows''
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