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Date:      Wed, 6 Aug 1997 12:27:58 +0930 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        freebsd@atipa.com (Atipa)
Cc:        msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Status of USB, TX chipset, PIIX3, etc.
Message-ID:  <199708060257.MAA02729@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970805200503.14539A-100000@dot.ishiboo.com> from Atipa at "Aug 5, 97 08:18:58 pm"

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Atipa stands accused of saying:
> > > Universal Serial Bus (USB) 
> > > 	http://www.usb.org (503)264-0590
> > > 	Modular, _Powered_ I/O w/ neato hubs
> > > 	12Mbit/sec, up to 127 devices
> > 
> > There are several developers working on this.  IMHO USB is an abomination
> > with "Job Security" written on almost every page of the spec. 8(
> 
> Ha. I see no NEED for USB; only added convenience.  It would be easier to
> deal with than a cyclades! If a good API were present, it would be a nice
> "geek-port" type of interface. 

It's a hideous "geek port" interface.  It has a complex, demanding
protocol that, if implemented entirely in software would be well
beyond the ability of the average "geek" programmer to get right.

> This type of interface, if well supported, would make computers EASIER. I 
> know that is not the main concern of people in this group (who are oviously 
> technically adept), but it is still a noble goal. One that is especially 
> appreciated by those of us in the support industry! :)

On the contrary, I would be overjoyed to see USB succeed.  However, it
adds components to the desktop cable mess, and these components currently
cost real money.  When I can buy a USB hub/controller interface chip in
small volumes for under AUD$50 each, I'll say that USB has hit the
"geek" market.

In 10k volumes, an integrated USB target/micro device would have to be
under the AUD$1 mark before it is cost effective.  Try getting that
sort of quantity pricing on the Z8 or PIC micros commonly used in
serial mice these days...

> > > DVD CD-ROMs and hardware decoders
> > How are they different from "normal" CD-ROMs?
> 
> They require hadware decoders. The cinema and audio industries freaked 
> out when they saw the potential for digital duplicates. DVD is encrypted 
> on the media and passed through a decoder. I am certainly no expert, but 
> it does require additional hardware support, above and beyond the host 
> interface.

Hmm.  No documentation or hardware generally available?

> Kevin

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