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Date:      Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:25:30 +0100
From:      Anthony Atkielski <atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <906778535.20050320192530@wanadoo.fr>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSX.4.61.0503200726341.17363@valkyrie.local>
References:  <372015099.20050320083658@wanadoo.fr> <199800316.20050320115601@wanadoo.fr> <Pine.OSX.4.61.0503200726341.17363@valkyrie.local>

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Duo writes:

> And, one stop shopping is not always the best course of action. In fact,
> it's extremely limiting in alot of ways.

Maybe, but that's the way a lot of organizations do it, and they have
both good and bad reasons for doing it that way.

> Another thing, Exchange may "have it all" as you say, but I say: the more
> you overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the sink.

True, but in large organizations you don't have a choice.

> Exchange's many issues come from its bloated nature.

Yes.  So do its advantages.

> I said it before, Ill say it again: I'll take 4 or 5 different OSS
> services, that do the same job as Exchange any day.

But you may not be the one making the decision.

> I guarantee they will be more scalable, cheaper
> TCO, and the developers will be far more receptive to my feedback than MS
> ever will be.

If they are reliable, adequate solutions ... why do you need developers?

> And, the folks who buy into MS's embrace and extend are a dime a dozen.

Exchange was a Microsoft invention, although it did adhere to certain
standards.  It implemented X.400 quite well (too bad nobody wanted
X.400).

> The original post in this thread, was about emulating an environment in
> which to run exchange.

And I gave the original answer, which is that Exchange doesn't run on
anything but Windows servers, period.

> ... that's been answered, you on the other hand, seem to me to be
> border line trolling.

It takes two to engage in debate.  Nobody is obligated to reply to
anything I say that he considers off-topic.

> What's more, even if your assesment of Exchange (that its the "best") is
> correct, how can there ever be anything better, if people dont move to
> other products with potential?

When and if another product that is superior comes along, people may
well move to it.  As far as I know, however, nobody is trying to compete
with Exchange.  It would be a billion-dollar undertaking with very high
risk, and the market potential just doesn't justify that sort of
adventure.

> It's your attitude that perpetuates embrace and extend.

My attitude is that of a longtime IT professional who has grown out of
petty schoolyard crushes and hate campaigns.  I run whatever does the
job best.  I don't care who wrote it.  I recommend what I consider to be
objectively best.

> No, unfortunately, people outside IT, who have zero technical
> understanding of the pandora's box they open, are making these choices.

Yes, that's what I said.  No technical understanding ... but no love or
hate, either.

-- 
Anthony




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