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Date:      Sat, 7 Jul 2001 11:55:36 -0500
From:      Steve Price <steve@havk.org>
To:        James Howard <howardjp@Glue.umd.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: GNU/FreeBSD (was: BSD, .Net comments - any reponse to this reasoning?)
Message-ID:  <20010707115536.M93367@bsd.havk.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0107071222210.7937-100000@y.glue.umd.edu>; from howardjp@Glue.umd.edu on Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 12:24:32PM -0400
References:  <20010707063121.E1368@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0107071222210.7937-100000@y.glue.umd.edu>

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On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 12:24:32PM -0400, James Howard wrote:
> 
> > He's done that.  But he was talking about a BSD which would have
> > almost only GNU userland.  People keep talking about a Debian
> > GNU/FreeBSD, for example.
> 
> They did produce one.  However, I could not find any links to it a few
> weeks ago when I tried to find it.

Not true.  After a year or more of talking about it the project
has produced little more than a port of dpkg.  Some people have
claimed to have gone much further than this but nobody has
produced any code much less a distribution.  Every so often the
interest picks back up and they argue over which of the BSDs to
use as a base, whether they should use a GNU or BSD userland, ...
In fact, just moments ago someone posted wondering what the
benefits of DebianBSD would be and wondered if a NetBSD package
that mimiced the Debian way wouldn't be the proper path.  To which
someone replied that that wouldn't be a true Debian.  It really is
quite comical at times.  Nearly everyone interested in the project
wants a BSD kernel because they feel it is better than Linux or
because (Net)BSD has been ported to more platforms.  They always
come back to the same thing.  They want dpkg and friends on BSD
but they want it to still be Debian and in some way Linux.  Deep
down inside they really like BSD and want to use it instead but
still want to be "cool" and say that they are using Linux. :)

I'm not belittling them by any means and this is all IMHO of
course so if there are any trolls out there - flames to /dev/null.

-steve

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