Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:44:48 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@hotjobs.com> To: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com> Cc: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, bs_13943_34262@adimus.de, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fortran in the base system (was Re: sysinstall) Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9812161639390.27793-100000@bright.fx.genx.net> In-Reply-To: <199812162109.OAA24884@mt.sri.com>
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On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Nate Williams wrote: > > > > > > All claimed advantages have absolutely nothing to do with the question > > > > > > of placing your fortran compiler in the base system instead of a port. > > > > > > > > > > There is already a Fortran compiler in the base system. > > > > > > > > I'd argue (heck, I am arguing. :) that it should be removed. > > > > > > > > > > Surprisingly, I would actually support this. > > > > > > > You realize that doing so makes FreeBSD look bad to new compsci students > > who all have to take that dreaded FORTRAN class sometime during their > > education? > > I don't know of *ANY* University that teaches Fortran to Comp. Sci > students. Fortran is a dead language, and is only used by engineers > that have already existing Fortran code. > > And, even if many universities still commonly taught Fortran, we don't > support Pascal, Java, Ada, or many other 'common' teaching languages out > of the box, so this is a poor excuse to keep Fortran. It was part of those annoying classes where they toss you through about 6-8 different langs in one semester so you supposedly get a better understanding of various languages out there. All i remeber is that the homework consisted mostly of using each lang for exactly what it can't do (ie. a quicksort in f77, ala no recursion) One more plus, for FreeBSD users but not FreeBSD maintainers is that Fortran upkeep will be manditory, ei. marking fortran as 'broken' wouldn't happen. btw, if you're concerned about bloat, you're too late, check the changes from -current as of about 6 months ago vs today. :/ I really think updating to g77 would be a good thing. Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current > > > Nate > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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